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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:15 AM
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Bush Wishes He Could Be Alongside Troops In Iraq But He Is Too Old
From The Washington Post
By Dan Froomkin

President Bush wishes that he could be alongside the troops in Iraq — except that he’s too old.

At least that’s what he reportedly told a blogger embedded with U.S. troops in Iraq. In the first session of its kind, Bush spent almost an hour on Friday talking with 10 so-called “milbloggers,” including two who participated by video conference from a military base outside Baghdad.

” N.Z. Bear,” one of the eight guests sitting around a table with Bush at the White House, reported: “Responding to one of the bloggers in Iraq he expressed envy that they could be there, and said he’d like to be there but ‘One, I’m too old to be out there, and two, they would notice me.’”

Maybe Bush was just making idle chit-chat. But this would not be the first time the president has appeared unaware of the hardships his war has caused hundreds of thousands of American troops — while expressing a misguided sense of bravado.

He certainly hasn’t ever put himself in harm’s way. The president who avoided serving in Vietnam as a young man has made only three visits to Iraq since declaring that major combat operations were over more than four years ago. All three of the visits were unannounced and featured extensive security.

http://www.trueblueliberal.com/2007/09/17/bushs-battlefield-envy/

Bush’s total time in country? Less than 15 hours.

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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:18 AM
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1. bastard is trying to guide his legacy
low-life . . . .
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:21 AM
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2. Still with the excuses, eh George?
You had your chance back in your youth, but cocaine was more important.
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Prince Paul Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:13 PM
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18. Lol
cocaine is helluva drug
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:22 AM
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3. He'd Also Flunk the Tests
even though the standards have been loosened up to the point of irresponsibility
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:28 AM
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4. "All Hat, No Cattle" nt
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:02 AM
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10. Unless you count
that heifer Condisleazy.
:rofl:
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Netbeavis Donating Member (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:30 AM
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5. that's funny as when he was young enough he did all he could to run away
If his daddy wasn't a US Congressman, W would have had his wish come true.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:32 AM
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6. Whattaya say we lobby our Congresspeople to waive the age limit JUST FOR HIM!
It'll be a nice present to give him as he exits office. He could spend a couple of years in the Service and THEN go on his speaking tour to "fill the coffers" back up.

I think I could get behind granting him his wish! Are you all with me?

TC


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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:32 AM
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7. He's too old to die ...
Or lose a limb or 3? :eyes:

"Old" must be Texan for "yellow".

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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:44 AM
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8. How embarrassing.

I find this story hard to believe, except that we are talking about *.

:grr:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 07:51 AM
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9. I am reminded of Lincoln during the Civil War...
On several occasions he was in a position to be killed or captured. One famous situation was when the Confederates were nearing DC, and Lincoln climbed up onto a berm to observe the action. Several bullets passed by him, and a couple of shells exploded nearby, but Lincoln was un-fazed. An officer called to the 6 foot + president to "get down you damned fool", before realizing it was the president. Lincoln often traveled w/o an escort as well. On one occasion while traveling to the Soldiers Home in MD, his hat was shot off his head. He arrived unscathed and non-plussed at his destination, saying that, "if someone is going to kill me, they have many opportunities to do so. What i do, will not change the will of the Lord. If I am to be assassinated, it will happen." After the fall of Richmond, Lincoln walked the streets of the devastated city, he showed no fear...but he did show intense emotion and compassion.

bush can't walk to his own bathroom w/o an entourage of SS agents, half of which have to tell him what to do when he gets there.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 08:15 AM
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11. i do`t think he is
he`s still has some months missing he needs to make up....
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 10:18 AM
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12. Who does junior indeed think he's bullshiting?
George W. Bush's Lost Year in 1972 Alabama

By Glynn Wilson

BIRMINGHAM, Ala., Feb. 2004 — The result of an investigation into George W. Bush's lost year in 1972 reveals a cocky privileged son who used his family connections to avoid military service in Vietnam and spend seven months in Alabama partying. He clearly skipped out on National Guard duty and avoided a mandatory drug test, all while learning the politics of "dirty tricks," deception and coded racism in the land of George Wallace.

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Privileged Son

Those who encountered Bush in Alabama remember him as an affable social drinker who acted younger than his 26 years. Referred to as George Bush, Jr. by newspapers in those days, sources say he also tended to show up late every day, around noon or one, at Blount's campaign headquarters in Montgomery. They say Bush would prop his cowboy boots on a desk and brag about how much he drank the night before.

They also remember Bush's stories about how the New Haven, Connecticut police always let him go, after he told them his name, when they stopped him "all the time" for driving drunk as a student at Yale in the late 1960s. Bush told this story to others working in the campaign "what seemed like a hundred times," says Red Blount's nephew C. Murphy Archibald, now an attorney in Charlotte, N.C., who also worked on the Blount campaign and said he had "vivid memories" of that time.

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During this period Bush often socialized with the young ladies of Huntingdon College, located in the Old Cloverdale historic neighborhood where he stayed. Bush even dated Nixon's daughter Tricia in the early 1970s, according to newspaper accounts. Bush was described as "young and personable" by the Montgomery Independent society columnist, and seen dancing at the Whitley Hotel on election night November 7 with "the blonde, pretty Emily Marks."

During the 2000 campaign, the Boston Globe named Marks as one of Bush's former girlfriends. But she and several other women who dated him during that time refused to say anything bad on the record about Bush, now a sitting president.

snip......

Many of those who came into close contact with Bush say he liked to drink beer and Jim Beam whiskey, and to eat fist-fulls of peanuts, and Executive burgers, at the Cloverdale Grill. They also say he liked to sneak out back for a joint of marijuana or into the head for a line of cocaine. The newspapers that year are full of stories about the scourges of cocaine and heroin making their way into the U.S. from abroad in the early days of the so-called "war on drugs." Remember the French Connection?

According to Cathy Donelson, a daughter of old Montgomery but one of the toughest investigative reporters to work for newspapers in Alabama over the years, the 1960s came to Old Cloverdale in the early 1970s about the time of Bush's arrival.

"We did a lot of drugs in those days," she said. "The 1970s are a blur."

snip......

Many of those who came into close contact with Bush say he liked to drink beer and Jim Beam whiskey, and to eat fist-fulls of peanuts, and Executive burgers, at the Cloverdale Grill. They also say he liked to sneak out back for a joint of marijuana or into the head for a line of cocaine. The newspapers that year are full of stories about the scourges of cocaine and heroin making their way into the U.S. from abroad in the early days of the so-called "war on drugs." Remember the French Connection?

According to Cathy Donelson, a daughter of old Montgomery but one of the toughest investigative reporters to work for newspapers in Alabama over the years, the 1960s came to Old Cloverdale in the early 1970s about the time of Bush's arrival.

"We did a lot of drugs in those days," she said. "The 1970s are a blur."

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Failure of Duty

Bush avoided Vietnam by using family connections to move ahead in line for acceptance into the National Guard in Texas. He was assigned to train as a pilot on the F-102 Delta Dagger, a plane scheduled for the scrap heap, guaranting Bush would never have to fly in Vietnam himself.

That May, Bush first requested a transfer from his Texas unit to the 9921st Air Reserve Squadron at Maxwell Air Force Base, a postal unit, after he had already moved to Alabama to work on Blount's campaign. The transfer was approved by his superiors in Houston, after the fact, but ultimately denied up the chain of command, since the unit only met one weekend night a month and had no airplanes. Bush was finally approved for a transfer on Sept. 5, five months after he had already established a residence in Alabama, to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Montgomery. His orders, available on the Net, required him to report to the unit commander, Gen. William Turnipseed. He is named in the orders.

much more here ... http://www.southerner.net/blog/awolbush.html
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:30 PM
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13. Thanks for that post. I had seem some of the snips before but we all
Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 02:32 PM by EV_Ares
need to be reminded of the "non-curious" president we have who loved to drink, smoke and not have any responsibility, which of those things we all were there at one time but did grow up. However, most did not do everything possible to keep from fighting for their country and then in time send others to die for oil. He doesn't appear to have changed much has he.

Unbelievable to me that he was able to snooker the american public the way he did. This, I still blame the dems and Nader for. They should have been able to work something out before the election.

Anyway, it all will soon be over, then trying to salvage what is left and get things turned around.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:49 PM
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14. he wishes he could be waterboarding prisoners
it would remind him of similar times in his youth torturing little animals.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 02:59 PM
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15. "Well, its that special ..."


So brave :puke:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 03:04 PM
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16. Well, why the hell didn't he do it when he was young enough instead of going AWOL?
He's nothing but a lying fool. Who does he think he's kidding? Oh I know, those 25% that are crazy/stupid enough to still approve of him.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 03:30 PM
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17. I think we need to show Bush some compassion here
Let's all, DESPITE his age, push for letting him to go to
Iraq, and we'll overlook his age. Same for Cheney. He never
got a shot at action back in the sixties. Let's give him another
chance, too. And no holding back, either--let's accord them both
the same great support that the rest of our people in Iraq
got--shabby armor, tainted food, hostility of a huge portion
of the local people.

Oh, wait--hold that last one about the hostility of the local
people. They can get that one any time they want. All they have
to do is set foot outside of the White House.
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:46 PM
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19. Just this once
we all here, would like to make YOU, Dubya, the exception.... Go ahead... go to Iraq and sleep in a hot fucking tent and drink warm water and get a shower once a week... and oh... get shot at and ride around in shitty Humvees and... well, you get the picture.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 05:40 PM
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20. there are troops in their 50s serving in Iraq, thanks to him
Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 05:40 PM by Lisa
Some of them have even given their lives. Bush claims to be in exceedingly good physical shape for a 61-year-old -- and now he says he's too old to serve?




http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0KAB/is_1_50/ai_n6184121

He has experienced the extremes of warfare--from behind a rifle to behind a desk. He has weathered two wars bracketing a generation in controversy --Vietnam and the current conflict in Iraq. And, at age 59, Sgt. 1st Class Clarence Kugler of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, also bears another distinction. According to the Army, he is one of the oldest enlisted Soldiers in Iraq.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C01EEDB123AF93BA25754C0A9629C8B63


GRAY ELEGY -- The War's Oldest Casualties; In Iraq War, Death Also Comes To Soldiers in Autumn of Life
By EDWARD WYATT
Published: July 18, 2004
Master Sgt. Thomas R. Thigpen was 52 when he fell dead of a heart attack during a touch-football game in Kuwait on March 16 -- a casualty that does not quite fit the standard template of wartime tragedy: the fresh-faced 18-year-old cut down with the promise of a full life ahead.

He was not the oldest to die since the invasion of Iraq. That would be Staff Sgt. William D. Chaney, 59, who operated the machine gun in the door of his unit's Black Hawk helicopters -- the same job he performed in Vietnam -- and died after surgery for an intestinal problem. Sgt. Floyd G. Knighten Jr., 55, serving in Kuwait in the same unit as his 21-year-old son, died of heat stroke while driving a Humvee without air-conditioning across the scorching Iraqi desert.


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