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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:05 AM
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Conflict of interest?
Sponsor of Presidential health care forum has a $4 billion conflict of interest
AARP deal with private insurers raises serious questions

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Wednesday, September 19, 2007

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The sponsor of tomorrow night’s Presidential forum in Iowa focused on health care reform has “a $4 billion vested interest in preserving the role of private, for-profit insurance companies in the health care industry,” Ohio Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said today.

According to published reports, the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP) “will net AARP $4.4 billion over seven years from the insurance giants United Healthcare and Aetna” with whom the organization signed agreements earlier this year. Under the AARP brand name, the organization will promote Aetna insurance policies to its members between the ages of 50 and 64 and United Healthcare policies for Medicare-eligible members.

Kucinich, the only Democratic candidate proposing a national, not-for-profit health insurance plan that would eliminate for-profit insurers from the health care system (HR 676), was specifically excluded from tomorrow’s forum by AARP.

“It’s clear that they didn’t want me upsetting their multi-billion dollar applecart,” Kucinich said. “The health care plans of the invited candidates preserve and promote the interests of for-profit insurance and pharmaceutical companies at the expense of tens of millions of everyday Americans who either can’t afford coverage or are being over-charged for the inadequate coverage they struggle to afford.”

Kucinich said AARP’s sponsorship of the Presidential forum “is like having Haliburton or Blackwater sponsor a Presidential forum on doing away with no-bid government contracts to private contractors; or an oil company sponsoring a forum on reducing the world’s dependence on oil.”

Kucinich emphasized that he was not taking issue with the 38 million members of AARP. “Millions of trusting AARP members have bought Medicare-supplemental and prescription drug insurance plans from AARP, believing that they were getting a good deal. The ‘AARP name’ was like the ‘Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval.’ It turns out, however, that AARP is taking a $4 billion cut by steering its members to profiteering private insurance companies trying to capitalize on fear and confusion.”

His plan, he explained, “would cover every American, with no premiums, no deductibles, and no co-payments. No one would be denied coverage or services.”

“The fact that Senators Clinton, Obama, and former Senator Edwards are pushing plans to keep the for-profit private insurers in business and in control may explain why they are willing to participate in this fake and tainted debate,” Kucinich said.

He also questioned the decision by Iowa Public Television to televise the Presidential forum and simulcast it to other PBS stations in other states. “Profit-driven and politics-driven media conglomerates are controlling what we see on TV and what we hear on the radio. Public broadcasting should represent a higher, more ethical standard,” he said. “In this case, public broadcasting will shamefully promote private interests.”



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but no, i'm sure his exclusion is ONLY about administrative requirements, not the $4.4 billion dollars
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:09 AM
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1. K&R
Go Dennis, continue to expose the truth!!!!!!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:11 AM
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2. He was not excluded he chose not to go.
At his own peril I might add.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:17 PM
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5. Yeah yeah whatever... what about the $4.4 billion deal?
No red flags goin up for you?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:38 PM
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19. Yea the fact that he lied about not being invited.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:26 AM
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3. K&R, red! Dennis is the only one worth voting for, period.
All of these sniveling, insurance corporation enablers, apologists and thralls are showing their true colors - and I am glad. At least now they can't hide behind some lame "universal insurance coverage" puke without knowing that we know...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:33 AM
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4. Nope... but they can act as if bending over and takin it rough
is the smart, pragmatic thing to do.

:rofl:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:26 PM
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6. This trekking in tinfoil is just plain sad to see.
Now he's attacking Public Television for airing a debate?

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:32 PM
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7. Why ignore the part about the billions of dollars
and seize on the part about PBS?

Oh wait... nevermind... I think I know why.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:16 PM
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12. Because its Phase 2 of covering his ass for his campaign screwup.
Phase 1 was yesterday when he inferred that other Democrats were trying to keep him out.

Now its big bad AARP & Public TV.

What better way to distract your supporters from your campaign's ineptitude than to throw out some red meat and position yourself as victim of the baddies.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:28 PM
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14. So you also think it's just bullshit?
He just made it all up?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:36 PM
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15. No, I don't think he made up the part about AARP's deal with insurance companies
There was much discussion about it here when it happened.

What I do not believe is that AARP excluded him from the debate for that reason.

And he looks quite foolish citing it as the reason when in reality it was a campaign screwup.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:38 PM
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16. Yeah... I was more interested in just the fact that they're corrupt.
I should have edited the "i wasn't included" crap out.

I don't care about appearances... I'm more about substance.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:29 PM
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17. Its certainly a topic worthy of discussion.
I have no idea why Kucinich came out against this in this manner.

Shit he could have turned the whole thing into "I refuse to participate in AARP's fake forum" and people would have eaten it up.

Though I found this bit annoying

"he Quad-City Times previews the forum setup. The best tidbit: "In the event that Obama 'shows up at the door, as Fuller put it, they’ll be ready. 'We brought an extra podium, and we have extra lights,' he said." (IPTV spokeswoman Jennifer Konfrst confirmed, but told NBC News that "it's standard operating procedure" to prepare for unexpected arrivals."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/09/20/369776.aspx

While I did not find the criteria for participation in the debate to be burdensome and it seems he did not meet them, Dennis should be allowed to participate. I certainly have issues with how his campaign has been run but its obvious he is a viable candidate.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:03 PM
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8. OH well... I guess since AARP is on board
it's OKEY DOKEY!

:bounce:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:06 PM
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9. Kucinich was invited by registered mail but never responded:
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:10 PM
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10. Another poster willing to overlook a $4.4 billion conflict of interest
in order to rag on the messenger.

Interesting...
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:13 PM
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11. It would appear that the 'messenger' doesn't have very much credibility
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:24 PM
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13. Uh huh.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 01:24 PM by redqueen
So you think it's not true, is that it?
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:31 PM
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18. I totally agree with this statement, anyone disagree?
“Profit-driven and politics-driven media conglomerates are controlling what we see on TV and what we hear on the radio. Public broadcasting should represent a higher, more ethical standard,”


We are being controlled without even knowing it. Look at how the anti war march only got small clips and most were negative and today the jena 6 march was on every channel for a while. They only show us what they want us to see and for some reason they want us to see Clinton allot and Kucinich almost never? Strange!
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