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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:10 PM
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"It's easier to trash MoveOn.org than it is to defend this war."
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 04:13 PM by polichick
Kudos to Tweety for this one ~ that's absolutely right. And our guys went along with it!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:14 PM
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1. Yeah! Great remark! nt
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:15 PM
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2. Rove 101 .... change the subject
Bush went AWOL = Dan Rather had bad documents

Kerry a war hero = Swiftboats

Allito had a checkered history = those mean dems made his wife cry

Gore is smart = "I invented the internet" Al Gore

War in Iraq is disaster = those moveon.org people are mean
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:25 PM
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8. Indeed.
John McCain is a war hero = McCain is batshit crazy due to his POW experience

Gay marriage off the table = We are OUTRAGED that Kerry and Edwards just said Cheney's daughter is a lesbian

Something has to be done about these 527s = Only your 527s, ours are quite effective, thank you very much

It just goes on, and on, and on.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:17 PM
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3. Tweety got one right! Kudos, indeed!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:23 PM
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4. He even repeated it when Laura Ingram tried to change the subject...
I wish Dems could see how easily they are played by the other side ~ can you imagine the laugh they're having at the WH right now?!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:02 PM
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5. Hardball is on again, for those of you who missed this...
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 06:03 PM by polichick
We can't keep letting the Reps change the subject. THE WAR IS THE SUBJECT!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:18 PM
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6. Senate Ignores War, Goes After MoveOn (email I got today)
Dear MoveOn Member,

The U.S. Senate just told you to sit down and be quiet when they passed a Republican amendment condemning MoveOn.1

Every day, our brave men and women are dying in a bloody civil war this Senate has done nothing to stop. Yesterday, they couldn't even pass a bill to give soldiers adequate leave with their families before redeploying.2 But they're spending time cracking down on a newspaper ad?

So, we're making clear where America stands. We're releasing a statement from MoveOn members—and anyone else who feels the same way—saying, "We will not be quiet, we will fight back. We will keep speaking out until Congress forces an exit plan for this awful war."

Clicking here will add your name:

http://pol.moveon.org/fightback/

Maybe you liked our General Petraeus ad.3 Maybe you thought the language went too far. But make no mistake: this is much bigger than one ad.

It's part of a larger campaign by Fox, the right-wing echo chamber, and Republicans like John McCain (who said we should be "thrown out of the country").4

They're doing it because they're hurting: Polls show last week's Bush Administration PR blitz increased the number of Americans favoring withdrawal5 and vulnerable Republicans are sinking lower and lower in the polls (or announcing their retirement).

And it has one purpose: to intimidate all of us. To send a message that anyone who speaks unpleasant truths about this war will pay. To make everyone—especially politicians—think twice before they accuse the administration of lying.

If it looks like we're on the run, people will think twice before they speak out. Will you send a message today to Dick Cheney, Fox, Bill O'Reilly, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Karl Rove—and the Democrats without the guts to vote against this—that it's not working?

We've changed our home page to just run the names of people who sign on. We'll report the totals to the media all day. And if we can find an electronic billboard in Washington, D.C., we'll run the names there, too.

And after you add your name, you can go one step further. We've put together a fair but hard-hitting ad that highlights how, yesterday, Republicans blocked a bill to give our troops adequate family leave before going back to Iraq. If we can raise enough money, we'll air this ad across the country and take the fight back to the real issues—this terrible war and its impact on our troops and the Iraqi people.

Clicking here will add your name to our statement:

http://pol.moveon.org/fightback/

This morning, the Senate didn't pass an exit strategy for Iraq. They didn't pass a bill to cover millions of uninsured Americans or combat the climate crisis. Nope—they condemned 3.4 million Americans for speaking out against the war.

Let them know them it's not going to work.

Thank you for all you do, every day, to get the truth out.

–Eli, Aaron, Adam G., Adam R., Anna, Carrie, Daniel, Erik, Ilyse, Jennifer, Joan, Justin, Karin, Laura, Marika, Matt, Natalie, Nita, Noah, Tanya, Tom & Wes
MoveOn.org Political Action
Thursday, September 20th, 2007


PS. I will join MoveOn members tonight for a live webcast at 8:30 EST/ 5:30 PST. We'll update this situation, talk about next steps, and answer your questions. To join in, click here:

http://pol.moveon.org/fight_back_call.html

Sources:

1. You can see the resolution text here and the roll call of who voted for it here. Absurdly, it claims that MoveOn "impugns the honor and integrity of ... all the members of the United States Armed Force"—despite the fact that MoveOn includes hundreds of thousands of veterans and military family members, who've led our campaign to bring our troops home.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2988&id=11268-6758813-z7gFn0&t=7

2. "Effort to Shift Course in Iraq Fails in Senate," New York Times , September 19, 2007.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/20/washington/20cong.html?hp

3. You can read the ad text and why we ran it here:
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2987&id=11268-6758813-z7gFn0&t=8

4. "McCain To MoveOn: Get Out," CBS News, September 14, 2007.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2973&id=11268-6758813-z7gFn0&t=9

5. "Poll: Most Say Bush Iraq Plan Falls Short," CBS News, September 17, 2007.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=2974&id=11268-6758813-z7gFn0&t=10
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:20 PM
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7. He handled that loon Ingraham very well.
He could barely contain his own disgust, but he handled her well, and you could tell he was seething underneath, and I smiled when he got that last dig in and told her, "It's hard to face the truth."
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:47 PM
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9. MoveOn brought it on themselves, end of story. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 06:53 PM
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10. Not at all...
The Dems just got played by the big boys yet again. It's unbelievable that they handed Bush a victory today, just after the Reps screwed them over on the Webb bill ~ betcha GW is having himself a nice little chuckle about now.

Chris Matthews said today what the Dems should've been saying LOUD & CLEAR!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:24 PM
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11. We will not agree on this I am afraid...
I appreciate your opinion though. I just cannot sanction a personal attack on a General that is following the orders of the civilian leadership. He has a job to do, and imho is doing it the best he can. If he was a politician, then I would agree that he is open for attacks of the type in the MoveOn ad.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:30 PM
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12. Keith Olbermann's special comment tonight will talk about...
Bush politicizing the military ~ should be interesting.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:34 PM
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13. Thanks, I will try to catch it. n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:01 PM
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14. Wow, that was some special comment...
I agreed with Keith whole heartedly.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:02 PM
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15. Me too! :)
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