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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:08 AM
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New Figures Reveal Aggressive GOP Obstructionist Strategy by Sam Stein
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/21/new-figures-reveal-aggres_n_65374.html

This past Wednesday, for the second time in almost as many months, Senator Jim Webb, D-VA, introduced a piece of Iraq war legislation that failed to pass the Senate despite gaining a majority of its votes.

Technically speaking, Webb's measure - which would have given soldiers as much time at home as their previous tour deployed - was not filibustered. Prior to its introduction, Senate Democrats and Republicans agreed that, in order to avoid a procedural tit-for-tat, there would be a 60-vote threshold on all Defense Authorization amendments. Nevertheless, seeing his pet project defeated for the second time, even with the support of 55 other Senators, left Webb a bit steamed.
"I would say to my colleagues that the American people are watching us today, and they are watching closely," the Virginian declared. "They are tired of the posturing that is giving the Congress such a bad reputation. And they are tired of the procedural strategies designed to protect politicians from accountability."


I think Webb is right. Less polite procedures and more fight! Stop it with the gentlemen's agreements.

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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:31 AM
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1. He could start with his MoveOn vote.
Yeah, that was a message of "strength." My question is, who was he trying to impress?
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rusty quoin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:39 AM
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2. The Moveon resolution should not have gotten to the floor.
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 08:40 AM by rusty quoin
It seemed that Boxer, with her resolution was trying to outmaneuver Repubs, but failed. The important votes, though, like restoration of habeas corpus, and Webb Amendment, should not need 60 votes to pass. I want to see a real debate, a fight. And I want to see Bush having to veto something like the Webb Amendment. How's that for supporting troops.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 08:42 AM
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3. 60 votes is a joke
how many major bills did the Republicans pass with Cheney providing the tiebreaker vote.
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stranger81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 03:52 PM
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4. And why oh why are the Democrats agreeing to a 60 vote threshold
without requiring the repugs to actually filibuster? Honestly, I can't for the life of me figure out what's in it for them to make such an agreement. If a filibuster takes place, that's only going to make the repugs look obstructionist.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 06:01 PM
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5. I think its so the Mandella myth guy can't veto
But that doesn't make sense, stand up pass the bills and let the public see Bush veto.

Methinks this is a campaign strategy to work up the base so much that they donate 1000% to
build a solid majority and elect a dem president, but they can't just govern as a campaign strategy.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:10 AM
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7. He's a decorated war veteran...
he's entitled to get pissed off about someone taking shots that he doesn't agree with...
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 11:22 PM
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6. lol! What a bunch of sellouts!
Why not a 3/4 requirement? Probably because that might actually end the war.

And we wouldn't want that. :eyes:


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