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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:01 PM Original message |
The MOST Democratic candidate will beat Bush MOST decisively |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Wow. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. Please propose an alternative view of the 40/40/20 rule |
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SeveneightyWhoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You think Kucinich will beat Bush most handily. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I applied an acknowledged election measurement logically |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Could this have anything to do with the falling |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Exactly - even if the DLC "won" with Clinton they lost us Congress |
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WhoCountsTheVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. If Dean or Kerry can beat Bush, DK can beat Bush |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. DK can beat Bush more soundly than they will be able to |
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deminflorida (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks but now I'm having a ...... |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Your alternative reality is of your own creation, not mine |
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spychoactive (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. here, here! |
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felonious thunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's one problem though |
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spychoactive (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. not sure if i agree |
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felonious thunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Not necessarily though |
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PissedOffPollyana (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Here's a thought... |
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felonious thunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Hey, I don't disagree with you on the fear factor |
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spychoactive (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. good point |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. That's not the way the rule works |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 02:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. The "Centrist" wing is an imaginary creation |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. DK |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Actually, that's not true |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 01:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Actually, it is true |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 02:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. He'd make the strongest candidate |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 03:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Reply |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The numbers don't necessarily support your theory |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I've said this before... |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. More people total voted progressive than conservative in 2000 |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. No |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-19-03 10:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Nader won't run if Kucinich gets the nod, and he'll get the Dem core |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-19-03 11:03 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. problem with warrant |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-03 09:58 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No, it's not "mythology" and I do think it's true and a tie is a loss |
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Iverson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-03 10:03 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I think you've misunderstood me. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-03 11:00 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Ah, my cryptic sensor failed me there |
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Jack_Dawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. DK: Tick-tock |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Did Ted Koppel actually say that? |
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CMT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. in all due respect |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 05:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Koppel asked 19 process questions before 1 substance Q |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
8. In a way |
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spychoactive (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. that was very eloquent |
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PissedOffPollyana (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
12. Has anyone else noticed... |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. If Dennis wins the nomination he will get my vote |
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leyton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
16. Kucinich is far too liberal |
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spychoactive (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. it's thinking like this: |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-03 12:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. History: |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. I agree that it is difficult to predict |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-17-03 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. Every time the Democratic Party runs left in a Presidential election, |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 12:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. The 40/40/20 rule is not "made up" and centrists lose |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 03:13 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. You can't support a single assertion you've made here. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:13 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. 53 million Gore/Nader to 50 million Bush in 2000 |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You can't just take Gore and Nader votes in 2000 and hand them to Kucinich |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Very True |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-19-03 11:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. Very untrue, Nader won't run if Kucinich does, LaDuke endorsed DK |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. 40% will vote core Democratic, only Kucinich has Green endorsements |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. No matter how many times you repeat it, it remains speculative fiction. |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 05:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Perhaps "trend" would be better than "rule" |
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Nadienne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 05:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. More on speculation... |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 05:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Then you'll agree that whoever ends up winning the Democratic primaries |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I can't agree with that |
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library_max (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Okay. Let's take that bit of conspiracy theory as gospel. |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-19-03 10:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. No matter how many times you rant, it's just pedantic nonsense |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
48. I agree with your premise--it is definately time for us to get a true |
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