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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:35 PM
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Poll question: What should Obama have done today?:
He's been heavily criticised on DU for not voting on the Biden/Boxer/Brownback/Kerry amendment and the Kyle /Liberman amendment.
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Klaxon Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:38 PM
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1. What did Mommy always say?



Actions speak louder then _____?


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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:39 PM
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2. nice poll!
Is Obama ......

1) the best guy in the world
b) really the smartest guy in the world
iii) gonna be a great president
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:41 PM
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3. nice push poll. n/t
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jumpoffdaplanet Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:41 PM
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4. If he doesn't think being a Senator is important enough
To do his job when there are important votes, he doesn't show me he think being prez is important either.

Besides, he should have been there and shown leadership by helping get votes for or against amendents.

In stead he is missing in action. Not a good way to gain support.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:41 PM
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5. How about his job. He should do the job he is being paid to do.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:41 PM
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6. He should have been there. Please register this as constructive criticism, thanks. -eom
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:42 PM
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7. Obama did the right thing.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:44 PM
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8. How the hell so? Hell--HC pissed me off big, but at least she went on the record.
Obama proved himself a chickenshit.

I'm undecided, but two contenders slid WAAAAAAAAAAAY down the scale this morning.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:49 PM
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33. It's called "the audacity of abstention"
Very "Zen and the Art of Presidential Campaigns." Very hip also.





(I hope I don't need this: :sarcasm: )
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:44 PM
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9. Could his presence change the vote? NO
So, he did the right thing, assuming he issues a statement saying what he would have voted.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:33 PM
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16. Did my presence in DC to stand for peace make a difference.
No according to you. We do the right thing because it is right! That is all.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:44 PM
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10. He's missed way too many votes - too shy to go on record, perhaps?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:52 PM
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15. McCain is my senator and he does just that.
Won't go on record when it really matters if it's apt to upset the middle.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:45 PM
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11. Democratic leaders usually have a good idea on how the vote will play out
If it looks like it will be close, senators (especially those on the campaign trail) will rush immediately to the Senate. If their vote won't make a difference they'll stay on the campaign trail.

Don't any of you guys remember this happening to Edwards and Kerry the last time?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:48 PM
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12. It's important to go on the record when these critical votes are
on the line. Even if the outcome doesn't change. Obama hurt his cause by not voting on these bills today. Personally, with modern day communication technology, I don't know why a Congressperson can't vote over a secure network from any place in the world.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:51 PM
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13. Option C. Ignore this poll.
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:52 PM
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14. This should read PUSH POLL
time to stop backing obama because of the glamour and face facts. BIDEN 08
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:43 PM
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17. How do you even know he had the option of returning?
By the time he found out, it may have been too late for him to return and vote. I wonder how many people voting that he should have been there would say the same for their own candidate in these circumstances. I'm guessing it's somewhere around 0.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:47 PM
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19. Let's see, who else will need to be in New Hampshire tonight that found the time to be in D.C. to do
their jobs?

Biden
Clinton
Dodd

And they're all running for President too!
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:59 PM
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20. Did they have an event in NH during the day, too?
I don't think so. So your comparison is false. You're trying to frame it as an issue of whether he had the time, but that's not what the issue is.
He didn't know the vote was going to be today and had an event during the day. So by the time he found out, it was too late to return. That's not true for any other candidate, other than perhaps McCain, who also missed the vote.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:12 PM
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23. Okay. If your comfortable with that reasoning then so am I
Although I wonder if the other Senators didn't cancel their planned events in New Hampshire in order to be in D.C. to vote.

Are you certain they didn't have events planned?

I'm not anti-Obama, I don't have a candidate yet. I actually supported him when he didn't vote on the whole Move-On debacle. But I believe he should have been in D.C. for both of the votes today.

JMO
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:07 PM
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26. I was wondering that myself.
Let's see;

1.Cancel appearnaces at the very last minute, therbyupsetting the people who arranged them

2. Get from wherever you are in New HAmpshire to an airport

3. Get a last minute flight to Washington which proabably involves transferring planes at Boston.

Maybe it just wasn't doable.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:45 PM
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18. Voted
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:45 PM by Debi
New Hampshire isn't in his District. :eyes:

On edit:

I wonder how the people of Illinois feel about not having a voice?
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:05 PM
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21. He didn't do his job on the Moveon ad vote (he was in DC that day.)
He and Biden showed no guts at all on that day.

Although today's skipped vote was less egregious than that, at least he's being consistent in missing votes.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:06 PM
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22. Other.
Hold another fundraiser since thats all he seems to be good at.
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kmccaskill Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:27 PM
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24.  obama
Chris Matthews of hardball just reported Obama came down with the stomach flu, but he will try to make the debate
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:29 PM
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25. How convenient.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:08 PM
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27. Shake hands with as many people as he does while keeping a killer
schedule.

It's a wonder more candidates don't come down sick.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:15 PM
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28. Sept 22nd - Biden cancels campaign event due to important Senate vote
Sep. 22: When presidential hopeful and Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was called back to Washington D.C. for Senate business Friday, his younger sister and campaign National Chair Valerie Biden Owens stepped in at campaign events in Iowa.

It can be done people, for important votes.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:39 PM
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30. Congrats Joe and Chris for the right votes today !
They represent well :hi
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:44 PM
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32. Exactly.
:applause:
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:16 PM
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29. There will be other days to campaign.
Anyone considering voting for Obama should understand if he has to cancel due to trying to prevent more senseless war.
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:42 PM
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31. Could there be more loaded poll questions? n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:17 PM
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34. Apparently the poll is no good because I left out the most important choice:


3. Keep his sick self in bed until he gets over the stomach virus he picked up.


I've seen a lot of cynical comments about this, but consider his risk factors:

Shaking hands of strangers all day

Running himself ragged campaigning

Eating who knows what on the road

Being father of two young children!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:38 PM
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35. Conceded to Hillary.
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