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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:13 PM
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Bill Clinton Says He Was More Experienced Than Obama
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=afl7MQBAfB5o&refer=home

Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- Former President Bill Clinton said he was far more experienced when he made his successful 1992 White House run than Senator Barack Obama is today.

``There is a difference,'' Clinton said in an interview with Bloomberg Television's ``Political Capital With Al Hunt'' that will air this weekend. ``I was the senior governor in America. I had been head of any number of national organizations that were related to the major issue of the day, which is how to restore America's economic strength.''

Clinton was 46 in 1992 when he beat Republican President George H.W. Bush to win the highest U.S. office, the same age that Obama is now. When Clinton, then the Arkansas governor, was first running, ``he was initially dismissed as an obscure if colorful outsider, handsome and articulate but, at age 46, too young and inexperienced for the job,'' his wife Hillary wrote in her autobiography, ``Living History.''

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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:18 PM
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1. I didn't think he could run again. Did I miss something?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:21 PM
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3. Maybe if you read, you would understand.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:03 AM
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28. Reading is Fundamental...
Edited on Sat Sep-29-07 09:07 AM by SaveElmer
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 04:27 PM
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41. Funny you should mention that
What with your own reading comprehension problems lately. :eyes:
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Savannah_H Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:21 PM
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2. reply
DOING WHAT????
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:22 PM
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4. Hasn't Obama been in elected office longer than Senator Clinton?
:shrug:
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:10 PM
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12. Governor's a bit better experience for the job than state legislator. n/t
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:51 PM
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26. Being governor is excellent experience for a presidential candidate.
It's a bit like being the president, just on a smaller scale.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:56 AM
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27. Governor Richardson

Voters seem to agree with that statement - JFK was the last sitting senator to be elected President. I don't know why the Dems keep nominating Senators; and in this election, we have a candidate with broad foreign policy experience and executive experience as a two-term governor.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:53 AM
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32. Which would be great if Hillary Clinton had ever been a Governor n/t
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:48 PM
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39. Except for the national security aspect
Which is a pretty big part of the job.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 10:09 PM
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49. Maybe it depends on what state you're in.
Here in AZ, Gov. Napolitano has to deal with national and state security issues a lot.

I would have thought international relations would be the big difference instead.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:52 AM
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31. I agree, but only one Clinton has been Governor - and I don't think
Bill Clinton was out campaigning on behalf of Bill Richardson. :shrug:
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:24 AM
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30. Yes, he has. He has also passed more bills than she has.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:14 PM
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57. Care to list the bills Obama has passed..
and while you're at it, list his endorsements, besides Oprah!
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 01:58 PM
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33. Dennis Kucinich has been in elected office longer than Hillary.
n/t
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 08:01 PM
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48. I believe all the Democratic candidates (sans Edwards) have served
in elected office longer than Clinton.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:24 PM
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5. Obama was never let into GHWBush's circle - Gov. Clinton was let in
at times, and Jackson Stephens got on fine with both of them.

Not many Dem governors could get in with a GOP president like that. Especially a president with such vast covert operations going at one time.

That's impressive.

Clinton is JUST. THAT. GOOD.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:10 PM
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13. "a president with such vast covert operations going at one time."
Connections with covert smarmy ex-presidents, IMO, does NOT reflect good on Bill.

This is seriously creeping me out!

Clinton is JUST. THAT. DECEITFUL.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:38 PM
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35. Obama has hired most of GWB's circle for his campaign
How did you miss that? Let's try dealing with the present.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 04:56 PM
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43. HAHAH - yeah sure. And there's nothing in the past that clues us to the future?
You sure would like people to forget the past.

Because the truth really points to WHO has protected the fascists for MANY YEARS.


And Obama is HARDLY even CLOSE - not even in the same ballpark with the fascists. That came only with POWER, and YOUR TEAM had the power and used it mORE for the fascists than they ever did for US.

If they had done their duty for us and the constitution, there would never have been a Bush2 possible. You know it - you just don't care because you get off on powertrippers, just as they do. You've pretty much made that clear in your posts mocking the honest Dems.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:44 PM
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47. Theres nothing I can do about the past and neither can you
But there is something I can do about the future. I can make sure Obama (and his Bush cronys) is not 44!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:23 AM
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51. Your dream team is Clintons, Bushes, Jackson Stephens, House of Saud, Dubai, China
Let BCCI and WalMart reign supreme - Fascists United - because YOU think power and money SHOULD be rewarded.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:17 PM
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58. Dreaming seems to be a chronic affliction of yours....
Edited on Sun Sep-30-07 03:18 PM by Tellurian
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:31 PM
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61. Nah - Iraqgate, BCCI, CIA drugrunning, fascist aggression in Iran and Syria are nightmares
provided by YOUR TEAM of powermongers - past, present and future.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:33 PM
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63. As I said before and now you agree...OCD is a very hard habit to break...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 04:02 PM
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64. I only agree that you worship the powerful at the expense of open government
and that you...don't...care....if closed, secretive government continues to hurt this nation and the world.

As long as your team has the power - let the rest eat cake.
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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:25 PM
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6. bill is great
when hillary is elected we get 2 presidents for the price of one!!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:29 PM
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17. but wouldn't that mean that Hillary has already served two terms?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:23 PM
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22. That's about the long and short of it
which will mean 4 years of right wing enabling and corporatist policies.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:45 PM
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25. Ah HA! Good point of order!
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:26 PM
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7. Another Clinton "peeing contest" about who is/was more experienced...
These are getting tiresome. I think we can judge the candidate's experience for ourselves. For example, you may come to the conclusion that Biden and Dodd's 30 and 25 years in the Senate are more relevant than HRC's and Obama's 7 and 3. Just a thought.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:27 PM
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8. Anyone notice that Bill's making as many headlines as Hill?
That man just can't take a second chair. :(
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:07 PM
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56. Lucky Hill, in June 2004 book tour he made headlines supporting Bush's policies
on terrorism and Iraq war.

And he had nothing to say in support of Kerry or his decades of work tracking terror networks that would have prevented 9-11 and this Iraq war.

But Bill had no reason to disrupt Bush2's presidency - Hillary was running in 2008.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:37 PM
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9. Take a trip or something, Bill
and stop shilling for your wife...it's about as ex-presidential as doing infomercials. She'll be better off if she's seen as standing on her own two feet, even is she is, ultimately, running on your presidency and not much more.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 07:42 PM
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10. Bill also said he did not have sexual relations with that woman.
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Grandrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:07 PM
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11. Is this the shadow government?
What happened to low key for Bill?:shrug:
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:14 PM
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14. Clinton's message was more consistent/nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:21 PM
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15. Bill certainly had more experience overseeing criminals being executed
Meanwhile, as just a lowly state senator, Obama made it much harder for his state to execute people, by requiring the videotaping of interrogations and "confessions" which had previously led to an obscene number of innocent people ending up on death row.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:29 PM
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16. Hey - if Bill hadn't executed that retarded man, he might have lost the independents! nt
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 08:37 PM
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18. Yep, I can see how killing this guy made the streets safer
"Though courts decided Rector was mentally competent to be put to death by lethal injection, evidence suggests otherwise. Rector's prison guards called him "the Chickman" because he thought the guards were throwing alligators and chickens into his cell. He would grip the bars and jump up and down like an ape. On the night of his execution, Rector saved the slice of pecan pie to be eaten before bedtime, not realizing his death would come first. He also told his attorney that he would like to vote for Clinton in the fall.

Rector was subject to a unique overlap of controversies in 1992 during his execution in Arkansas. A question of the morality of killing someone who was functionally retarded. An oft-cited example of his mental insufficiency is his decision to save the dessert of his last meal for after his execution.<1> In 2002, the U.S. Supreme Court banned the execution of people with mental retardation in Atkins v. Virginia, ruling that the practice constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. Rector was African-American, adding to racial questions relating to the death penalty."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Ray_Rector

Nope, the death penalty is not about revenge at all.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:01 PM
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19. That's not the whole story.
I don't know if this is true, because Clinton himself is my only source here, but this is his defense. He says that Rector was mentally competent prior to the incident, but the injury he sustained in the resulting gunfight is what made him retarded. I don't know if it's true, and I don't know if it would make a difference in your opinion, but it's worth noting Bill's side of the story.

By the way, years later Clinton said that he's very much opposed to executing the retarded; that case was differing according to him because the accused was not mentally retarded at the time he committed the crime.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:16 PM
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20. He shot himself in the head after he killed people and it dropped his IQ to 70
Obviously, if he was retarded, he didn't constitute the same threat to society as he did before. There is no chance of a person with a 70 IQ is going to mastermind a prison escape and go kill again, for example. That means the execution was about vengeance, and not just an extreme measure taken to protect society.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 09:19 PM
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21. I see what you're saying.
That's a good point.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:12 PM
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23. Sorry, Big Dawg. You were cool back "in the day." But now it's time to step aside...
It's time for a new generation of positive leadership to take the helm.

So how's about turning off the slime machine, eh.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:42 PM
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37. A Community Organizer = Presidential Timber?
Not in my world it doesn't!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:11 PM
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44. Hillary doesn't understand IranContra and BCCI so how can she handle matters
occurring today that are rooted in those operations.

I know she doesn't understand them because her book omits all mention of those illegal government operations.

Bill obviously didn't understand the import of BCCI and CIA drugrunning operations, either, as he never mentions those illegal operations in his entire book.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:41 PM
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46. Just think if you had focused on getting Kerry elected..
we wouldn't be having this discussion..

you have zero credibility!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:15 AM
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50. Not my job to get Kerry elected, it was Dem party's job to get votes counted
as they promised after 2000.

BTW - YOU believe Americans should trust ANY lawmaker who refuses to even acknowledge the matters in IranContra and BCCI, even though those operations led to the deaths of thousands on 9-11 and well over a million deaths worldwide?

Funny how you avoid those inconvenient truths.
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:28 PM
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24. Who cares? Is Bill Clinton running for Prez? What does that have to do with Obama?
He is not Obama and he is not his wife. Plus he is not going to morph his experience and knowledge into Hillary. Nice try Bill, Go out and find an intern!
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 09:24 AM
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29. He was not more experienced. There is a video of Him on Youtube in a debate
they were talking about his inexperience. Obama's experience is the same as Hillary's period.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:45 PM
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38. Not Hardly.. Obama doesn't even have name recognition throughout the country..
When I've mentioned his name out west, they say: WHO? Bin Laden?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 02:17 PM
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34. All I know
is that the incredibly "experienced" ex-president and his incredibly "experienced" wife, the senator from NY both had the incredible foresight to back one of the biggest foreign policy disasters this country ever set out on.

Of course, he did also sign the DMCA into law as well as NAFTA, the DOMA, and a whole lot of other crappy legislation.

I'll never forget Bill Clinton on Larry King asked about yellow-gate: "Everybody makes mistakes".

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/clinton.iraq.sotu/index.html


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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:42 PM
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36. He's more experienced in adultery and lying...I'll give him that much over Obama
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 03:48 PM
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40. He also left out "I was handpicked as a Trojan Horse by the oligarchy"...
I guess Bubba is getting a little forgetful in his old age
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 04:31 PM
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42. Well he's not the one running so who cares about that?
I really wish he would stay away and allow Hillary to campaign on her own merits.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 06:24 PM
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45. But enough about Bill's affair.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:26 AM
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52. Obama proved him to be wrong. He used his own VIDEO talking about his experience
That was priceless. I could not have done it better myself.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 09:28 AM
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53. Video in which Clinton's own words works against his statement
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:21 PM
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59. No, thats your Obama trying his hand at TRIANGULATION...
and he's making a fool out of himself because it's just not selling...

Obama the TRIANGULATOR...I like it!
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:11 PM
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54. Bill Clinton Says He Was More Experienced? - so why do an intern in the White House, why not
get a room? - Bill to me is like watching (yaaawn) the same old movie over and over... same old act same old style, fucking boring...!
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FlaxieB Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 12:28 PM
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55. We all understand that Bill is trying to sell Hillary by using his "credibility" with the public.
But we all know that she is not him. It's a shame that the Bill Clinton presidential agenda is the only thing Hillary has going for her in this campaign. No real vision, no real agenda, no real ideas, just her husband's rehash of his administration's policies. Being married and being needy is one thing, but as President? I don't think so. Hillary is "standing by her man" because she has no other choice.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:24 PM
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60. Sorry, Flaxie. Obama's Triangulation and yours is getting NO traction here
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:32 PM
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62. *bow-chicka-bow-wow*
:P
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