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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:33 AM
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Arlen Specter: "Disorderly conduct is not moral turpitude and it is no basis for leaving the Senate"
Craig Says He’ll Stay in Senate, Defying the G.O.P.

By CARL HULSE
Published: October 4, 2007



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/washington/05craig.html?_r=2&hp&oref=s&oref=slogin

Other Republicans stopped short of calling on Mr. Craig to give up his seat, but they were clearly dismayed that he would stay in office, citing the distraction his presence could provide as well as the potential harm to the party and the Senate.

“I can’t think of anything good about it,” said Senator Saxby Chambliss, Republican of Georgia.

“You don’t want to know what I really feel,” said Senator Jim DeMint, Republican of South Carolina.

Mr. Craig had his defenders among the Republicans, including Senators Michael Crapo, also of Idaho, and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, both of whom said Mr. Craig was within his rights to remain and try to clear his name. “Senator Craig is entitled to make his decision and I respect it,” Mr. Specter said. “Disorderly conduct is not moral turpitude and it is no basis for leaving the Senate.”
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:36 AM
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1. Moral Turpitude is what Vitter did and he's still in
I mean look at some of the shit RepubliKlans have been doing. This is small stuff.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:44 AM
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9. GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP
*Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP *Gods of Perversion* GOP.

sucking on strangers penises in restrooms is acceptable behavior for a United States Senator.

"GO FUCK YOURSELF" On the Senate floor uttered by Dick Chaney.

Thank God for the moral direction the repukes have bestowed on our great Nation. We are better for their example.

Fascists GD fascists!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:37 AM
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2. ok, you respect Craigs decision------fine. Now live with losing more seats. Fine by me.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:38 AM
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3. I agree. Let us continue to see them, daily, in their sub-prime moral turpitudiness nt
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:42 AM
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8.  A new type of Republican! we have the Neo-cons and now the Dis-Cons!--fleshing out the Repub Image!
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:38 AM
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4. What, exactly, did Craig do that was illegal? What laws were broken?
No sexual activity took place. There was no indecent exposure. The only touching that took place was via two shoes. How is this flirtation in a public restroom stall any worse than some letch trying to pick up a woman in a bar?

Quite often the guy comes on to the woman, touches her, makes suggestive remarks, etc. Do you see the police coming in to haul the guy off to jail? No. The poor woman has to defend herself, which most are pretty adept at these days. Or, friends come to her rescue and tell the guy to bug off.

Nothing was spoken about having sex, no money exchanged hands, no dollar amount was mentioned. So the guy is pathetic because he's a closet case and can't deal with who he really is. I just don't see the big deal here, other than the guy is a huge hypocrit, which is typical of the GOP.

Am I missing something else? :shrug:

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:50 AM
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12. Yes
They dropped the "interference with privacy" charge when he plead guilty to the "disorderly conduct" charge... It is against the law to peer through a crack in a restroom stall for two minutes while somebody is on the crapper, presumably doing his or her business...
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:38 AM
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5. Craig's views and opinions are worthy of challenge. His questionable
taste in decorum isn't. He should stay and take the heat from his colleagues and constituents as his penance.
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reality based Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:41 AM
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6. If they can let a male prostitute wander the halls of the White House without signing out
I guess the Repuke hypocrites can put up with an outed "notgay" in their Congressional cloakrooms.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:41 AM
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7. Specter has been the main repug supporting Craig.
It's almost as if he wants the gop to suffer.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:45 AM
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10. Go Arlen, Go Arlen! It's your birthday!
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:46 AM
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11. He's got a point
Craig's crime and conviction were for a misdemeanor. If a conviction for a misdemeanor were cause for expulsion from the Senate we would probably have a lot fewer Senators.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:52 AM
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15. at face value you are right and I agree--but.......all sorts of misdemeanor was a duzzy
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:51 AM
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13. “The defendant, a career politician with a college education, is of, at least, above-average intelli

but seems his hormones anted up that day.



.....“The defendant, a career politician with a college education, is of, at least, above-average intelligence,” Judge Porter wrote in a ruling issued earlier this afternoon. “He knew what he was saying, reading and signing.”
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:51 AM
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14. “You don’t want to know what I really feel,” said Senator Jim DeMint
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 09:54 AM by yellowcanine
Actually Senator we do. Enlighten us. Might as well use this sordid episode to expose all the gay phobes out there.

My guess is he is repulsed more by the fact that the good Senator enjoys a little gay sex now and then then by the fact then by the fact that he was trying to do it in a public restroom.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:53 AM
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16. Does anyone else get creeped out by Sen Hairplug's rabid support of Sen Perv?
...I'm wondering if ole Arlen his been spending time on Perv-O's yacht....???

:puke:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 10:47 AM
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17. I.e., It's Okay If You're a Republican
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