READ THIS: Sandy Berger now advising Hillary Clinton

http://www.examiner.com/a-977346~He_s_back__Sandy_Berger_now_advising_Hillary_Clinton.html

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Sandy Berger, who stole highly classified terrorism documents from the National Archives, destroyed them and lied to investigators, is now an adviser to presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. Berger, who was fired from John Kerry’s presidential campaign when the scandal broke in 2004, has assumed a similar role in Clinton’s campaign, even though his security clearance has been suspended until September 2008. This is raising eyebrows even among Clinton’s admirers. “It shows poor judgment and a lack of regard for Berger’s serious misdeeds,” said law professor Jonathan Adler of Case Western Reserve University, who nonetheless called Clinton “by far the most impressive candidate in the Democratic field.”

Adler told The Examiner that it is “simply incomprehensible to me that a serious contender for the presidency would rely upon him as a key foreign policy advisor.”

He added: “If Senator Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, at some point she will begin to receive national security briefings that will include sensitive information. At such a point, continuing to keep Berger on board as a key advisor, where he might have access to sensitive material, would be beyond incomprehensible.”

He's an unpaid adviser... He was a Clinton friend... Should they shun him?

I don't know...

Perhaps it best not to use the one written by Bill Sammon...

This is raising eyebrows even among Clinton’s admirers.

Like who? Jonathan Adler? THIS Jonathan Adler?

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Y2Y3NjNkM2ZkYTcxNzQwYTBhZWZkNzEyZGYyMWExMjE=

:rofl:

Try again.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/8/10580/7236

It's not going well over at Kos ....

...and just as irrelevant to mainstream Democrats.

trying to whip us into shape.

it must be sad to be you.

:shrug:

:rofl:

If you actually said something lighthearted and fun, I must have missed it.

I'll try to keep an eye out in the future for that.

or that him being an advisor isn't an issue?

Come on, you KNOW what their motives are, everyone does. You seem to be saying this is NOT an issue. As I see it, there are only two ways someone could see this as a non-issue. Either they believe it's not true and Berger is NOT advising Clinton, or they believe that it doesn't matter if he is advising Clinton or not.

I understand that BOTH the RW and LW have a vested interest in promoting the story, but have yet to understand why this means I shouldn't care about the underlying issue itself. Since you seem to think that isn't not an issue, I'm wondering why. Do you believe that Berger isn't an adviser, or that even if he is, it doesn't matter?

He offers advice with no official role in the campaign...He doesn't appear on any of their literature...

But he is a friend... Does that mean they should shun him and brand him with a big letter B for burglar on his head?

Would be not to have him advise the campaign at all. Not once a month, not once a week. Not ever. Keep him as a personal friend, yes, but keep him as far away from the campaign as possible. This is a stupid move on the part of the campaign.

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Is he someone the campaigns calls on the phone once a month for tips? Or is he a day-to-day member of her campaign staff?

If he's a regular staff member, then this is a big mistake by the Clinton campaign. If not, then its much ado about nothing.

Are the Clintons supposed to shun him?

Cut him off completely?

Not even acknowledge his existence?

That strikes me as cold...

Searching "Sandy Berger on Google news...

The first four sources are FOX News, Hot Air (a Republican blog), News Max, and Hillary Project.

After the source of the OP of this thread comes CNSNews (extreme rightwing site.)

Also on the first page is "Stop the ACLU."

Why is this story important to right wingers? They believe Berger stole documents that would implicate Clinton for 9/11.

So why are DU and KOS stressing over the story? Perhaps they're afraid of what the GOP thinks.

and they were not security papers. Because how could a former Clinton administration member get into a place with TOP SECRET papers, when a lot of the present senators and house members don't have clearance.

AND I AM SURE AS HELL SANDY BERGER DID NOT HAVE A CLEARANCE FOR ""TOP SECRET"" PAPERS. But then the republican talking points if they have any any at all negative instances about Hillary those "posters" will sure as hell put them here.

He did have security clearance because he was the National Security Advisor and they retain their security clearance for a period of time after they leave their position. The documents WERE classified.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/01/berger.plea/

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/

The documents in question were to be used for the 911 Commission Report.



I'm pretty certain that the Clinton camp will throw Berger under the bus if the story is true.

There have been several red flags as to the kind of governance we can expect from a restored Clinton dynasty. Don't act surprised when they are realized during the Clinton 44 Administration.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1998909&mesg_id=1998909

Wish we could find out if the writer is reliable.

Bill Sammon is senior White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner (having left the same position at The Washington Times in February 2006), a political analyst for Fox News Channel, and the author of four New York Times bestsellers: At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election; Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism from Inside the White House; Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, Media Bias and the Bush Haters; and Strategery: How George W. Bush Is Defeating Terrorists, Outwitting Democrats, and Confounding the Mainstream Media. He is a frequent guest on shows like Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox News Sunday and Hannity & Colmes.

A graduate of Saint Ignatius High School in Cleveland, Ohio, and Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, Bill lives in Maryland with his wife Becky and their five children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Sammon



I'll let you judge

"At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election" Oh dear God.

As a life-time Clevelander, I hereby revoke his Cleveland rights.

*barfs*

Diffrent year. Time for a compleate overhaul. to jail with bush/cheney. and out with Hillary.

It doesn't matter who wrote this. What matters is what is says. Unless there is reason to dispute that Berger is the Clinton's adviser on these issues.

The Berger incident is troubling because there are at minimum questions that he did something wrong. This sends many wrong signals.

it's the most politically tone deaf move I've seen her campaign make.Not a good idea to saddle yourself with unnecessary political baggage like this.

Sen. Clinton: Sandy Berger has 'no official role in my campaign'
At the end of an interview with Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton a short while ago, USA TODAY's Susan Page inquired about reports that former Clinton administration national security adviser Sandy Berger is advising her.

Susan asked whether Clinton has any qualms about having Berger as an unofficial adviser to her campaign, given his mishandling of sensitive, classified intelligence documents in 2003?

"He has no official role in my campaign. He's been a friend for more than 30 years. But he doesn't have any official role," Clinton said.

But he's an unofficial adviser, Susan asked?

"I have thousands of unofficial advisers," said Clinton, "and, you know, I appreciate all of that. But he has no official role in my campaign."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/10/sen-clinton-san.html

Here's the bio of the author of the story:



Bill Sammon is senior White House correspondent for the Washington Examiner (having left the same position at The Washington Times in February 2006), a political analyst for Fox News Channel, and the author of four New York Times bestsellers: At Any Cost: How Al Gore Tried to Steal the Election; Fighting Back: The War on Terrorism from Inside the White House; Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, Media Bias and the Bush Haters; and Strategery: How George W. Bush Is Defeating Terrorists, Outwitting Democrats, and Confounding the Mainstream Media. He is a frequent guest on shows like Special Report with Brit Hume, Fox News Sunday and Hannity & Colmes.

A graduate of Saint Ignatius High School in Cleveland, Ohio, and Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, Bill lives in Maryland with his wife Becky and their five children.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Sammon

This makes sense now.

They were part of his job, for God's sakes. He took them home when he was supposed to have left them in the office.

"Stole" them, indeed.