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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:29 PM
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It's pointless to look at the "greatest" page anymore
The top posts on DU always bash democratic leaders, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I've bookmarked GD/politics now and really enjoy and learn from most of the people on DU at LBN and the stock market board as well.

It's really just bizarre that the "greatest" page is dominated by posts that smear leading dems.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:34 PM
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1. Most of those posts bashing Dems come from GD/P. Just sayin'.
There's lots more than that in Greatest; depends on what you're looking for.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:36 PM
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2. It's not bizarre it's freedom.
Democrats are not fascists that believe in 'my way or the highway'. That's for republicans. Democrats actually debate the issues and will call out their own when the belief is that they are wrong. Right now we are occupied by criminals that have subverted the Constitution. Anyone that goes along with these criminals is fair game. My relatives died in war to protect the rights defined in that document. They did not die for the right to destroy the Constitution. :dem:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:39 PM
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34. agreed. it appears that the support for the ideas the OP doesn't
like exists in large pools here or they wouldn't end up on the Greatest page. Amazing.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:39 PM
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3. Especially Hillary
Get 5 people together to K&R it and Hillary bashing is on the Greatest.

I rarely go there myself these days. Lots of the posts are quoted from or linked to RW websites that slam Hillary.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:43 PM
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4. the greatest page is easily manipulated
For instance, posts attacking Hillary are often put there by recommendations, and anyone could be giving out these rec's, even freepers. They can simply register and don't have to post and use the recommends on threads they agree with. An example, there was a thread saying they will not vote for Hillary in the general election, it got over 100 recommends.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:54 AM
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10. It's quite obvious, isn't it...........
50+ rec's on a hit piece or flamebait. They are everywhere and have a communication system that would have the Pentagon drooling.



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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:45 PM
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5. I wish we had a thumbs up/thumbs down option like they have on YouTube comments n/t
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:50 PM
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6. By "bashing", do you mean "raising valid and troubling concerns"?

And by "candidates", do you mean "Hillary"?

Just wondering...
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:25 AM
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11. There is a lot of bashing, and only a few posts raising valid concerns.

The critics of Hillary, and it now almost always is Hillary (until quite recently there was almost as much aimed at Obama and Edwards, but it seems to have gone away now that it's clear how great Hillary's lead is) are quite right that there's a distinction between the two.

But, sadly, DU has far more of the former than of the latter.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:39 PM
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35. in your opinion.
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:34 PM
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37. Just seems to me she is not all that popular here.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 09:53 PM
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7. Welcome to the netroots. n/t
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 10:34 PM
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8. 3-4 of the current top 10 could be classified that way.
So you have a bit of a misconception about the extent of the problem, if there is in fact a problem at all. Primary season always draws friendly fire. Then there is the abject failure of the Congressional Democratic leadership to act in opposition to the criminal cabal in Washington, which rightly draws a lot of negative posts from people justly upset about the duopolistic fraud that has been perpetrated on the citizens of this republic. Would you rather we pretend that there isn't a problem?
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:49 AM
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9. One word- freepers
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:30 AM
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15. um, no
why does DU aLways try to pass off its own fauLts to insidious disruptors? we're quite capabLe of being of doing these things ourseLves.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:43 AM
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18. I agree, all a freeper has to do is post an inflamatory question or point about Hillary
And the circular firing squad comes out of the woodwork. The freepers have allies in those who are obsessed with Hillary. Now the Hillary obsessers have started attacking Bill Clinton too. Its getting pathetic.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:48 AM
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19. ...
:eyes:
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:40 AM
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22. ...
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 08:40 AM by SIMPLYB1980
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:33 AM
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43. They do it to everyone

I'll stopped posting Draft Gore updates because
the freeps are crawling all over DU.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:34 AM
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12. I hear you.
Visitors to this site must wonder what is so Democratic if they look at the top "hits" these days.

Glad I've been around this place long enough to know that many of the great minds are staying out of this early crap. Waiting for the nominee to be known to see if everyone comes together.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:56 AM
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13. The bashers damage us everytime they open their yaps. Yet they seem very proud of themselves.
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 06:01 AM by Perry Logan
The popularity of their threads suggests major self-esteem problems among Democrats. It's like a political form of self-mutilation.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:28 AM
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14. did you get bored with your other thread?
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skyblue Donating Member (724 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:35 AM
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16. Exactly
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:40 AM
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17. I agree
The DU is turning into an, "Attack and obsess over Hillary," smear machine. All any visiting freeper type has to do here is to virulently and endlessly attack Hillary and they will fit right in. Sometimes 1/4 to 1/3 of the new threads are about Hillary, most of them flame bait.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:37 AM
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21. if i remember correctly there were lots of Edwards hair cut threads..
and Edwards investment threads..the Edwards negative threads were very prolific..

and if i am to understand the primary season..souldn't we all be looking very carefully and throughly at who we are going to support for president of the United States Of America? ..i wouldn't want it any other way..

after all ...until the constitution is totally repealed ( by the likes of our political leaders) ..it begins with .."WE THE PEOPLE"..that means me and i will look under every rock and every stone to know everything i can possibly know about who i may support for the most powerful seat in the world ..

I want to know about every pimple on the ass of someone i will support for president of my country ..who has the power to decide the future of this nation ..not just for me but for my children's future.

If someone doesn't like that tough..

it is my responsibility as an American to dissect each and every candidate..we do not have a monarchy..yet.

and if i have anything to do with it..we will never have a monarchy.

if that means exposing good and bad of our own candidates..so be it..

that is our responsibility!

that is why we have primaries!

No one running for president should have a free ride.

I want to know every damn thing about anyone who could start the next war..or if americans can make a living ..or if we can have clean air to breathe...

if you don't like that..well don't respond to those threads..

but please do not tell me what is important to me.

I take my responsibility to My constitution and my childrens constitution very seriously..and i damn sure want to know every damn thing about every candidate..this is not a popularity contest..this is a contest of who is the best person to lead this nation and to be repsonsible to the world for our deeds, and policies..

people's lives depend on our responsibility to our constitution..if little lord pissy pants is not proof of that ..i don't know what the hell would be!

so what is important to me ..may not be important to you..but you have no right to tell me what is important to me..or my family..or my nation..

there is no such thing as too much information in which to guide our decisions, and our responsibility to our constitution.

I can not tell you what information is important to you..and likewise , you have no right to tell me what information is important to my decisions.

No one forces you to read what is unimportant to you..as no one forces me to ignore or not read what is unimportant to me..personally i do not find much that does not teach me something each and every day here at DU.

fly



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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:20 AM
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20. Ignore those posts. I've just quit reading any posts that I think are gonna slam a
candidate. I'm tired of them and I think EVERY one of our candidates is great and I don't wanna even read the crap anymore. If there is a real problem, it will get so much attention, we'll all know about it, otherwise, just ignore.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:44 AM
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23. I wish we could unrecommend a thread
Otherwise, our only option is to start a counter thread to bash the other thread, which needs recommends. The bad that comes from "unrecommend" is outweighed by the bad of not having one.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:19 AM
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25. lol this thread is pointless (its on the greatest page)
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 09:20 AM by bushmeat
:crazy:
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:12 AM
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24. Not nearly as troubling as their performance
Are you the least bit concerned about what's going on in the world, or is this just a team sport to you?
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:19 AM
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26. "Gore Gore Gore Gore Gore Gore Gore"
Got over 50 recs.

The Gore mania is making it unreadable as well.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:22 AM
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27. I think inarticulate expressions of support are less of a problem.
Gore Gore Gore Gore Gore etc may be a foolish thing to post, but it's harmless.

Some of the vitriol aimed at Hillary, and to a lesser but still considerable extent at Obama and Edwards, isn't.
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Zandor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:24 AM
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28. Pelosi, too
I don't have a problem with reasonable arguements against them. But right now there's a "Hillary sucks and so does her man" on there.

I mean, really.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:39 AM
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29. Good point. I've always come right to the greatest page. Maybe I
should rethink that....
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:27 AM
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30. Its almost like folks are mad at the leadership
Go figure
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:36 PM
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40. amazing isn't it? There couldn't be Dems angry at leadership, must be freeps!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:32 AM
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31. it'd be easier to forgo the Greatest Page
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 11:33 AM by bluedog
all one needs now is a small group to rec' posts that they feel are relevant to "their" cause and off it goes,,,,,just a waste of space........
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:42 AM
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32. You got that right. I'm ashamed to say it, but I'm going to be giving the ignore button a work out
I try not to use the ignore button ever, but some of these candidate-spammers just keep posting the same pointless crap.

I expect to find that it will only takes putting 10-15 people on ignore to make DU bearable again.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 12:09 PM
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33. I would expect a Progressive site to criticize Conservatives,
especially Conservative Democrats. Hillary is the most conservative of all the candidates. It is no mystery that she attracts most of the criticism.

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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:38 PM
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41. Naw, a progressive site will critisize those who reflect values that are not progressive
There are more Repubs in that catagory, but it is apparent there are also more Dems in that catagory than many are comfortable with.
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Morereason Donating Member (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:38 PM
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42. Naw, a progressive site will critisize those who reflect values that are not progressive
There are more Repubs in that catagory, but it is apparent there are also more Dems in that catagory than many are comfortable with.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 01:04 PM
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36. Ah, gee...
I just realized that the time you posted this on Tuesday I had a post near the top describing tactics of ridicule, ignoring the base and appeasing the right wing.

Your post makes me want to apologize.

Kidding.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:35 PM
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38. Here's one to kick...
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jzodda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:36 PM
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39. Ahhhh the Joys of Primary Season
It will be better when we have a nominee ready for battle in a few months. For now if you want to feel better go to Freeperville and read how they hate Rudy so much they want to start a 3rd party. It will warm your heart :)
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