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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:51 PM Original message |
How many Dems will stay home on election day if Clinton's the nominee? (polling data) |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. My theory: It's KKKarl's "The Math" |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
44. You're Being Hoisted On Your Own Petard |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. i dont think so. people that vote tend to vote and those that dont stay home. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Good point. |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Nonsense. How could this legitimately mean anything? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. If your argument is "How could any poll on any topic mean anything" |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. IT means nothing. Why not elect the candidate we want and Tell the CCM to STFU? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Most polling is done by the campaigns, not the media. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
75. HRC has a crooked a$$ pollster working for her campaign. The point is Why ask about the General |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Pollsters poll on questions people want information about |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Means the DUism 'we'll stay home, & never vote for Clinton!' isn't Real. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
5. Probably 1/2 of all of those "stay at home" votes reflect people |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I know. They're just trying to get their way. You get the same thing with Obama, Kucinich, Dodd |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. Add this poll result to |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. I bet you every one of those 6% are DU members...nt |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
10. I will not be staying home in any event |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. Very interesting, |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. More will stay home/vote GOP if Obama or Edwards is the nom. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Clinton and Obama are very close on those |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Those are thin slices, so all are probably imprecise |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. Denial..Denial...Denial That's The DU MO |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
14. Every person should vote--If you must do not vote for President. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Amen to that |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That's what I plan to do. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. I used to claim that HRC was the least electable |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
21. Has there been a Republican version of this by any pollster? |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. They (gallup) looked into Repub enthusiasm also: |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. There are 13 months till then. Do we really have to debate this right now? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Candidates are making electability arguments right now |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:41 PM Original message |
you're right, nothing wrong with talking about it. But I wish people would take this |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
34. The crucify thing, frankly, I don't care |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Bless you! re: "working on pressuring for the Webb amendment to get out of committee" |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. Anybody can join in to stop war on Iran |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. what is the webb amendment? pardon my ignorance. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Precluding use of military funds to attack Iran |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. oh ok. I have FISA on my mind. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. See post 54, robinlynne nt |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
36. The poll is truth and proves how out of touch the nasty haters |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
24. Interesting |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. These are just Dems. The white guy might play better with pugs & inds |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. The candidate-hate thing is an eye opener |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
26. If the do they should have their ass kicked. List em here we'll track em down |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Yes sir, Sen McCarthy, sir |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
29. One important option is not included in the polling |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Yeah, I would have expected a third party option. |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
35. Isn't the more salient question how many Repubs will go to the polls who would have stayed home? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
37. Fewer people have heard of Obama and Edwards. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I don't think that still is true |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. A lot of people have never even heard of Dick Cheney. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. True, but if someone asked me "If Fred Squigawitz were the Democratic nominee..." |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. But this can affect the "Don't know" and "Vote against Republican" totals. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. No Doubt. Highest name recognition in the race on either side. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. Rinsd probably has the numbers |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Thanks for the compliment. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Are you single? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. ... |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Good, I'm glad |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. The familiarity figures may be a little old |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I wish gallup would update those data points. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. For what it's worth... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. It's the WOMEN. The women in this country (most of them) are about to make herstory. |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'd say that it makes pretty clear that DU conventional wisdom about our candidates is... |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I'd call it a wash. |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Agreed. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. yesterday a story out that almost half dems will stay home if Hillary is nominee. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. LOL. In what, the National Enquirer? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Before The Net A Person Could Just Make Shit Up |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
68. Bill James wrote something about how the first publication of The Baseball Encyclopedia screwed up a |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You're Just Making Shit Up! |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Do DU polls count? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I Fixed It |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. I would guess that Half of Dem-leaners have stayed home in every election ever held |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. My thoughts exactly. nt |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Good point. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. No, but mysteriously C- does equal B (At least in Econ101 at Yale.) |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Hehe.... |
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TwilightZone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. In your household, perhaps. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
78. Voter turnout is typically 50% in any case, isn't it? n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes, because they don't like either party |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
76. Wow. There goes another talking point. nt |
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liberalpress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
77. This question has a very easy answer... |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
80. I'm staying home! I vote absentee....HRC all the way |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
81. People will be taking into account her husband Bill when they go out to vote |
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