This McClurkin Contreversy is laughable at BEST!!!

People are acting as if the Gospel singer endorsed Obama or vice versa...the man is singing ONE DAY on a damn TOUR!! Their political/social views are ENTIRELY different. But by the way people are acting, you'd think Obama said what McClurkin has. When you do a GOSPEL concert, you hire singers that the general audience will like. And even though some on DU hate his guts, there are many people out there (damn say all) that love his MUSIC. McClurkin is NOT campaigning for Obama for fuck's sake!!!

HAHAHA...this is so damn funny it's sad. Still won't hurt him one but nationally thought, especially if the pundits don't pay any attention to it. Which it looks like they're not.

It is a fund-raiser. That is quite different from any old concert.

His campaign organized it, is advertising it, and will take the money from it.

Campaign fund-raising events do not seek people out based only on their popularity. They seek out acts with whom they wish to be associated.

Yeah, what's wrong with that? :eyes:

You are beyond pathetic.

...that the singer represents a political viewpoint diametrically opposed to that of the candidate? By that reasoning, Obama should tour with Prussian Blue when he visits places with large populations of white supremacists.

IT'S A BLOODY CONCERT!!! His political views don't matter because they won't be talking about politics. He's going to be singing to a crowd that all listen and love his gospel MUSIC.

It's like saying Kanye West shouldn't perform at a concert because people don't like what he said about Bush. It's damn dumb...

Nobody is questioning Obaoma's constitutional right to have the fundraiser he wants.

near a ghouliani fundraiser. How about if Gore had some band known for trashing Global Warming at one his fund raisers for Environmental Awareness? Nah, not gonna happen, either.

It just doesn't compute..Obama.

"lie down with dogs, get up with fleas"? How about "a man is known by the company he keeps"? The fact that the event happens to be a concert and not "a political summit" is irrelevant. I wonder if your opinion would be different if the singer was a racist instead of "just" a homophobe?

As long as he doesn't mention the whole racist thing, does that make it ok?

Believe it or not, someone can have a gospel concert without McCloset involved. By choosing to keep him on, Obama is marginalizing us, as has happened to us so many times before, and for the same reason. He dare not offend the knuckle-draggers by taking him off now. He has to choose between them and us, and he's choosing them. Because of that, I can no longer choose him.

Give it a little time, the story is still gaining inertia.

As another poster mentioned, the AP has picked up this story.

This has traction.

And I hope Obama is happy, because he just wrote off the GLBT vote with this shit.

That's all Duke has, is a different point of view, and he has his First Amendment rights. To do otherwise would be intolerant. :sarcasm:

from those who support the supposedly inevitable HRC.

Methinks they are nervous about Obama and his potential. Why else would they constantly attack him? You don't see anyone attacking Dennis Kucinich.

But you don't want to hear that do you?

i didn't know i was gonna have to put his supporters on ignore too. :eyes:

what the fuck happened to DU?

Donnie to be uninvited Bill Attended. WOW where was this outrage? Hillary should not associate with Bill. Damn she should get a divorce because Bill was on the same stage was Donnie. Therefore Bill is guilty and Hillary is Guilty because she is married to Bill. Just because he was at an event where Donnie was. Therefore he must believe what Donnie Believes. DAMN Him.
:sarcasm:

In fact, I was anyone but Hillary, with Obama coming up as my favorite.

Now, it's anyone but Obama, with Hillary still my least favorite other than him.

Barack Obama has chosen to hire a bigot who has said that homosexuality is a "curse" and is a proponent of the "ex-gay" movement, which is nothing more than a destructive fraud. It doesn't have anything to do with whether they're HRC supporters or Edwards' supporters or whatever. It has everything to do with the fact that THIS candidate has chosen to essentially stand by said bigot. And we GLBT Democrats are majorly pissed over this.

has no unsavory political views?

The guy is coming to sing his songs, not pontificate on homosexuality. He's not speaking, or endorsing Obama. He's probably under contract anyway.

Obama is now my 5th or sixth choice

This is not about Clinton. I am pissed at what Obama is doing because of what he is doing. I'm pissed at Hillary for her getting in bed with fundies. If we can't call out our own for the bullshit they do, we are just as bad as the freepers.

I don't find it laughable

just another reason I can't support Obama

that does not make me condemn Obama for having compassion for a singer who suffered terrible abuse as a child and understands that this trauma is what is behind his feelings.

What happened to him was horrible, But I'm getting more than a bit tired hearing that used as an excuse for bigotry and gay bashing.

If I get mugged by someone of African descent and end up joining the KKK, is that excusable? What if a Jew takes my job and I sign up with the neo-Nazis?

If this was someone worthy of praise, he wouldn't be turning his trauma into bigotry.

If it is true, please, don't visit her anymore.

...will that turn you into a radical ex-heterosexual who vows to eradicate heterosexuality from the face of the earth?

Or does getting raped turn a person on to whatever sex of the assailant, as appears to be the case with McClurkin?

Explain to me how this works, because -- and I speak as one who was never raped or sexually abused by either sex, at any age, and turned out queer as a three-dollar bill anyway -- your point is as clear as mud.

Childhood trauma at the hands of a pedophile is no excuse for homophobia and trying to eradicate gays from the face of the earth. The harm he does to gay people is inexcusable, and the apologists only make it worse.

So can the righteousness.

give one a free pass for unethical behavior, including bigotry and intolerance.

musicians and choirs out there that don't believe and spew hatred like this McClurkin.

Obama approved this and this was a bad decision. It calls into question the thoroughness of his decisions.

Up until this point I have not excluded any Democratic candidates...this is personal to me so as far as I am concerned. My list is one candidate shorter.

sounds like bullshit.

Saved from gayness by Jesus? Cured his leukemia with prayer?

...please...

Is he that kind of nut too?

"The doctor suggested immediate treatment, but McClurkin, who was then 31, decided to take another path."

Another nut who forsakes medicine for prayer. This one got lucky.

Is that the litmus test? Anything below "running mate" is excusable, including hiring a homophobic bigot to sing at your event?

As for your litmus tests, Obama is not the only candidate who endorsed/got endorsed by a religious homobigot.

but that doesn't stop the Obama haters from grabbing onto it as their latest excuse to attack him.

I don't give a shit if my mechanic is a neo-nazi, as long as he keeps his views to himself and fixes my car.

HA HA HA HA HA.

it's good to see another poor defense of this though. it makes me Laugh.

HA HA HA HA HA.

NOTHING!

You people fucking sicken me! :puke:

Don't tell that to someone that has been there to stand up for his LGBT family members, friends and students every single time.

I do my part, and I wish our candidates were more in tune with the claims with the LGBT community, but they are not. Obama is being attacked unfairly.

And I'm supposed to respect this "difference of opinion", fuck that shit!

I was waiting for someone to pull that out of their ass.

You are displaying your homophobic tendencies.

No one I know is talking about this.

No candidate is perfect. If that was the case, then it would be Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich duking it out for the nomination.

All the candidates have flaws regarding the gay community, including Hillary.

or progressives. Rwers are big into shunning. Maybe some
would be happier as Gopers.

Politicians must associate with all kinds of people. Liberals
and Progressives usually are inclusive and should understand
that an appearance someplace or with someone does not mean
one approves of all that person may represent.

This guilt by association sounds like the Fundies.

He's not like McCain one minute denouncing Jerry Fallwell and the next minute meeting with him and kissing up to him the next. Obama hasn't changed his views at all. And said so.

I agree it won't hurt him. It's not even worth covering in the MSM and they cover EVERYTHING Obama does that they consider wrong.

don't know who the singer likes or dislikes.

Many like his music but don't have a clue about his personal life.

Should every entertainer be screened in order for them to perform before a politician?

If so, we have a lot of backtracking to do.

No more James Brown fans ~ he beat his wife.

Never listen to another Michael Jackson record because he was found not guilty but that doesn't matter because he is "weird."

Oh, and let's not have Obama go near Janet Jackson either, Janet is Michael's sister so she may think and act like he does.

And, as much as I dislike Arnold, I would not refuse to see Obama with Oprah because she and Arnold's wife are good friends.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeese

Your "fuck the gays" post makes me want to vomit.

The Republicans are laughing at us at this moment.

Keep it up everyone, keep it up.

I don't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut what any goddamned Republican thinks, and if you give a shit what they think, and if you allow their twisted, aborted P.O.V. to impact your behavior, or curb your free speech, I feel very sorry for you.

Fuck that shit. We've got too many seriously deep fissions within our own party to repair -- if that is even possible -- to give so much as a fart in a jar what those fuckers think. You're never going to change their shriveled little minds, so what do you care?

Get your priorities straight. It's our house that needs cleaning.

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And I have no class? And I'm in the gutter?

Welcome to my ignore list.

I double dare you! BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

I hear Ted Nugent is available.

The Nuge, dude! The Nuge!

Maybe if he got an expensive haircut or cackled instead.

Not when it effects you directly anyway.

I don't care how many people 'love his music'. His homophobia trumps everything else.

And, you should be ashamed for posting this. It's disgusting.

End. Of. Story.

Really. This is like the 10th thread you've started on the subject. You're starting to look desperate.

And, really, are people getting injured or killed because of who they are a laughing matter? I certainly don't think so.

Join the Nazis since you don't think that Gays and Lesbians should be destroyed.

Any that does not see a problem with this guy is either stupid, a homophobic bigot, or both.

Why do you hate Gays??

I take it you are straight (or claim to be)?

You mean to tell me that there isn't one gospel singer who isn't a hateful, homophobe that Obama could have picked? This was a bad move by Obama. I could understand Obama signing him without knowing his positions..but now that he does, and refuses to bump him, like it or not, it sends a message loud and clear that many of us do not like. Let's be clear...I don't believe for a second that Obama actually endorses the positions of McClurkin...but it's very clear that Obama will NOT stand strong for gay rights, and that disappoints me, and saddens me.

If you think that Obama throwing the atheists and gays under the bus is funny, I wonder why you are here. What percentage of the population do you think he has pissed off with this? I'm guessing it's greater than the group he is courting.

People are a very large population as well. Obama has done nothing against the GBLT community. However, Donnie has said something. You are trying to fault Obama for Donnie's actions.

that people are willing to give Obama a pass on this. If one of the Republican candidates had done this, DU would go nuts. They would probably make the Top 10 Conservative Idiots. But because it is a Dem we are supposed to give him a pass? Obama has done something against the GBLT community. At an event he is sponsoring and using to raise money for him, he is putting a homophobic bigot on the stage. That speaks volumes. And his constant religious jibberjabber about a "kingdom on earth" is also uncalled for.

But at least you are clear that Obama will do fine if he tosses gays and atheists under the bus. I feel much better about supporting him. I'm sure I'll be fine traction if the bus gets stuck.

The hypocrisy you mentioned is stunning. If Romney or Huckabee or Thompson did this, there would be universal condemnation around here. But because it's a Democrat that did this, some think it's just perfectly ok. Another Democrat has thrown us under the bus, and some simply don't care.

Anything, and I mean anything the man did was OK with his flock, and here is the same behavior. Disgraceful.

You're comfortable with that?

Endorsement or not, the man is performing at an Obama event. If Senator Obama doesn't agree with the singers message, and is truly committed to what he says he is on GLBT issues, he shouldn't have an issue with respectfully telling the singer thanks but no thanks. This bothers me as a gay voter that this is happening.

And question for Obama supporters who are pissed about this: I admire you guys, but don't you think if this was Hillary with this guy on the campaign trail, you'd be bashing her? I know you would, because it's a fair thing to get pissed off about. The gay community wants to know that our candidates are going to be leaders. I would advise Senator Obama to lead, and remove this idiot from his tour.

at all to those who are GLBT or who have friends/family who are. :mad:

Obama didn't vote for the IWR. He doesn't get $400 haircuts and clearcut trees in order to build a McMansion. He's not a DLCer. If we're gonna hate Obama, you've got to give us something! Give us the McClurkin issue, please!