Dean-founded group likes Gore as president

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/dean-founded-group-likes-gore-as-president-2007-10-23.html

Dean-founded group likes Gore as president
By Klaus Marre
October 23, 2007

Members of Democracy for America (DFA), a group that evolved from current Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean’s 2004 White House campaign, prefer Al Gore as the Democrats’ 2008 presidential nominee.

According to an ongoing poll, the former vice president and recent winner of the Nobel Peace Prize attracts nearly 30 percent of the vote as a write-in candidate. Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) is second with 22 percent, followed by former Sen. John Edwards (N.C.) and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (Ohio), both of whom have garnered about 17 percent of the vote.

Democratic front-runner Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) lags far behind the quartet with 5 percent.

The result of the poll, which closes Nov. 5, has led DFA Executive Director Arshad Hasan to call on Gore to declare if he intends to run.

“Despite the fact that Al Gore has not announced that he will run and wasn’t even included in the endorsement poll, DFA members have seized the power and written him in,” Hasan said in an e-mail to the group’s members.

In the last presidential race, Gore endorsed Dean early in the primary process.

Gore and Dean are both people I really like.

Edwards 2nd, Kucinich 3rd.

I don't want to find out what will happen otherwise.

Interesting that Hillary is only up when a MSM does a poll..... -things that make you go hmmmm?
KICKED!

the DFA poll is an internet poll. That's different from a real poll.

It's not like it's actually limited to people who are actual DFA members. Anyone with an email address can vote.

As someone who joined DFA the day it rose from the ashes from Dean For America, and who has contributed to it and who has been an active member of Democracy For Texas, I resent the campaign by the Draft Gore movement to freep this poll.

I accept that chances are the majority of real DFA members probably don't support the candidate I have chosen. I know many who support Obama, others who support Edwards, others who are undecided or favor other candidates. The level of support for the imaginary Gore candidacy indicated by stuffing the electronic ballot box certainly doesn't exist in real life. The result of this has been to make a farce of the results and possibly to deprive a real candidate of DFA's support.

it's your only option, really

because when Gore steps in, it's curtains for Hillary

I resent your use of the verb "freep." Someone supporting a candidate with American and Iraqi blood on her hands has no moral authority to lecture those who want a candidate who places principles above politics.

I was a real Dean For America member and am a real Democracy For America member now and I believe my wife was the last Dean delegate elected in the 2004 primary season, so I don't need any lecture from you.

A post Nobel poll indicates a plurality (44%) of Democrats would support Gore if he declared, making him the instant front runner.

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NYW11617102007-1.htm

He also recently outperformed Hillary heads up against Giuliani. Gore won 52-46. Hillary was only 49-47.

On what possible basis can you say your candidate is better than ours in any aspect???

This is a valid poll of >75000 Real Democrats. It's a lot more accurate than a CNN opinion poll or the like.

I wouldn't be so quick to write it off, if I were you.

Though Hillary may do well in a Nationwide poll, she has become the Nominee, first.

This poll is an accurate predictor of what she will face in the Primary.
If Gore steps in, she doesn't stand a chance.
Even if he doesn't, she has her work cut out for her.

It is intended to be an accurate picture of DFA members. DFA members are the netroots -- people who hang out online and who are Democratic party activists. The DFA poll does resemble polls that have been posted here at DU and polls at DailyKos - those polls show a huge majority for Gore when Gore's name is listed in the field. It is interesting to see that Gore is managing to win as a write-in on the DFA poll when he wasn't listed.

In this case your argument that the DFA poll is different from a "real poll" is a straw man argument because the DFA poll never purported to be an accurate picture of likely Democratic voters.

but people here do.

I've come to think this over the last couple of weeks as I watch the people here in Michigan struggle mightily to get his name on the ballot (and as soon as my monthly paycheck rolls in, I'm going to be chipping in a couple of bucks too).

People are putting a lot into this, in terms of time, money, and hope.

If he knows he's not running in 2008, then he's letting us waste that effort, which could be put into other causes, including progressive candidates. I don't care what he might do "in the future" (ok, I really do care, but not for the purposes of this point I'm trying to make). We need to know about *this* election cycle.

Are you running in 2008 Al? We need to know, dammitt, so we don't waste limited resources working on the potential candidacy many of us are deeply hoping for.

Hope sucks.

I would love it if Dean could return the favor and endorse (reads coerce) an Al Gore candidacy.

Thanks for the thread, babylonsister.:thumbsup: