Who here thinks Obama is a Bigot? - Democratic Underground

CalebHayes

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:31 PM
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Who here thinks Obama is a Bigot?

Or a Homophobe, or anything of the sort?

I don't think many of you do. Whats the point with all the criticism? At least someone is trying to bring America together.

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IndianaJones

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:32 PM
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1. I do not think he is a bigot. nt.

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Clintonista2

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:32 PM
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2. I don't think he is

I think he's legitimizing bigotry by not dropping McClurkin, though.

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Ethelk2044

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:34 PM
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5. Did Hillary drop Reverend Mulberry Endorsement?

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Clintonista2

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:36 PM
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9. Hillary isn't using that endorsement to make $$$

How much is Obama charging for people to come and see him with McClurkin?

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earthlover

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:02 PM
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32. Simple Solution to the homophobe supporter issue....

Hillary has Reverend Harold Mayberry. Obama has McClurkin. The campaign platforms of Edwards, Clinton and Obama are mildly homophobic.

The solution: Clinton, Edwards and Obama all resign and leave the Democratic Party to people who can give us one America.

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alteredstate

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:45 PM
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37. $10.00

and McClurkin's not the only performer.

And Obama's not going to be there.

I doubt they'll make money on the concerts.

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mrreowwr_kittty

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Fri Oct-26-07 12:18 AM
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43. So if he didn't charge money it would be okay? n/t

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MoJoWorkin

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Fri Oct-26-07 06:17 AM
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51. That is laughable. Don't you think endorsements can draw in contributions

from those of like-minds?

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MADem

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:36 PM
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10. Is that the question? Nice try at derailing, though.

Did Hillary INVITE Reverend Whatsisface to go on a gospel tour with her?

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ronnykmarshall

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:06 PM
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27. Once again La Ethel spins it back to Hillary.

What a fucking suprise.

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MonkeyFunk

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:46 AM
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48. No kidding

and there's absolutely no equivalence between the two.

Did Hillary recruit Mayberry and use him in a fundraiser? No.
Is Mayberry politically famous primarily for his bigoted views? No.
Does Hillary have any control over who "endorses" her? No.

But good ol' Ethel finds a way to turn Obama's gaffe into a Hillary-hate-fest.

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Tellurian

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Fri Oct-26-07 08:48 AM
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60. Ethel was outted as a homophobe the other day!

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closeupready

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Fri Oct-26-07 01:20 PM
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78. deleted

Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 01:20 PM by closeupready

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MethuenProgressive

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Fri Oct-26-07 07:17 AM
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57. "McClurkin will remain part of the program."

Against Clinton's bigot, but support Obama's bigot?
Interesting.

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Ethelk2044

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:33 PM
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3. He is neither, but Kill him for trying to move the country close together

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MethuenProgressive

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Fri Oct-26-07 07:15 AM
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56. I don't want to "move closer" to anti-gay bigotry.

YMMV.

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Tellurian

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Fri Oct-26-07 08:49 AM
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61. Or to Republithink!

O'Bigot can have them all!

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NMMNG

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:33 AM
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70. How do you move the country closer together

By throwing a concert with a band of homophobes?

Shall we "move the country closer together" with a festival featuring the KKK?

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jonnyblitz

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:33 PM
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4. I don't think HE is. It is obvious to me now that his supporters

Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 07:35 PM by jonnyblitz

are willing to overlook or excuse it for politican gain. they are willing to overlook the homophobia but they claim to be seeing racism coming from us folk who criticize the black homophobes.

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CalebHayes

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:35 PM
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6. Well Shit, lets drop Robert Byrd from the Democratic Party

ex-KKK

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jonnyblitz

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:37 PM
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12. i am not even going to argue with you clowns anymore.

who said anything about dropping anybody from the party?!?

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IndianaJones

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:37 PM
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13. amen to that. now he is a bigot. nt.

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MADem

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:38 PM
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14. The operative word is EX. And Byrd APOLOGIZED. But thanks for playing. NT

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IndianaJones

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:39 PM
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16. Byrd has always been and will always be a bigot. nt.

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MADem

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:49 PM
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21. Byrd has APOLOGIZED.

And he isn't running for President, either, is he?

But thanks for playing.

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IndianaJones

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:52 PM
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23. I didn't bring him up. He's a bigot though. nt.

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MADem

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:54 PM
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24. You're wrong. But have fun so being. NT

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IndianaJones

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:56 PM
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25. I guess he can do whatever if he keeps apologizing. Byrd apologists. lol. nt.

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gorekerrydreamticket

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Fri Oct-26-07 09:37 AM
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65. Trent Lott apologized as well....

so what?

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MADem

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Fri Oct-26-07 01:18 PM
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77. Yep, and he's WHIP now. And if Boehner fucks up, he'll be LEADER before you know it. nt

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Ethelk2044

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:35 PM
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8. His Supporters Know he is not by his actions on Bills.

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MADem

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:35 PM
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7. I don't think he's a bigot. I DO think he is showing a weakness in leadership.

If his staff fucked up, he needs to step up, say so, fire a few people, apologize, cancel the homophobe, and move forward.

He's trying to "ignore his way" out of this mess, like Felix Macacawitz Allen did. He's insulted a generous and motivated number of his constituency.

It didn't work for Felix, and while Barack has more charm and better bona fides, it may not work for him, either.

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:36 PM
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11. Not a bigot. Just a man driven to hypocrisy and amorality by ambition

Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 07:37 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter

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bigwillq

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:38 PM
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15. I don't think he is.

But his association and his tolerance of allowing a known bigot to appear at a campaign event does not show good judgement nor compassion for the gay community. We shouldn't allow or tolerate bigots to speak at any event let alone one for a Democratic candidate. Obama has a choice to tell McClurkin not to speak. If he does that, I will no longer have an issue with Obama. Let's see what he does.

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rinsd

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:40 PM
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17. I don't think he is at all but I think his campaign's reaction to this has been badly handled.

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Bitwit1234

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:40 PM
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18. I don't think so..he might have showed lack of judgement right now

but, bigot I don't think so.

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Lucinda

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:47 PM
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19. I don't know him, so I cannot say what is in his mind, however

this is one more instance that reinforces my belief that he is not ready to lead this country.

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Smarmie Doofus

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:48 PM
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20. I like him. I just think....

... he's making a foolish decision by consorting with a political untouchable.

Rev. McC is simply over the top. McC's mindset is to GLBTers what Nazism was/is to Jews and the Klan was/is to AAs.

Then Obama.. or his handlers... aggravates the situation by denying that McC's pronouncements are beyond the political pale.

But they ARE. And his inability to RECOGNIZE that raises questions about O's judgement.

It's *not* a conspiracy. I still prefer him to Clinton.( I'm backing Edwards) But he's doing a DUMB thing. And, from a moral standpoint ... a WRONG thing.

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calteacherguy

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Thu Oct-25-07 07:50 PM
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22. K&R. nt

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ronnykmarshall

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:05 PM
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26. I don't think he is either ...

But it's not a wise move on this campaign's part.

Barack is a good man.

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rAVES

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:10 PM
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28. Na'h

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bicentennial_baby

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:11 PM
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29. Nope, just not ready for the bigtime..

An inexperienced politician who should have nipped this in the bud. Absolutely don't agree with him on marriage equality, but think that he handled this situation as poorly as possible. Maybe 2012, he needs to learn. :)

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Bluebear

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:12 PM
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30. Bringing gays and those that hate them "together" is no big favor.

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Maven

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:35 PM
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35. Really! Somehow they seem to find us without any help. nt

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ronnykmarshall

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:30 AM
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69. You tell 'em Hedy!

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Nimrod2005

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Thu Oct-25-07 08:30 PM
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31. People like to bitch, that's all.......nt

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AtomicKitten

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:05 PM
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33. He is an imperfect man, but I don't believe he is a bigot.

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LWolf

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:08 PM
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34. I don't know.

He's probably more of an opportunist than a homophobe, but he is obviously too friendly with homophobia for comfort.

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incapsulated

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Thu Oct-25-07 09:42 PM
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36. No, I never did, I just think he is handling this very poorly. n/t

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goodgd_yall

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Thu Oct-25-07 10:57 PM
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38. He is....a little bit

Obama has a blind spot as many people do and that can make for bigotry. I guess "bigot" is such a charged word no one wants to say he is because he's not a, uh, like, a raging bigot.

He's sure gotten himself in a fix. It's just as well we know now how poor his judgment is and what a lousy staff he's put together.

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illinoisprogressive

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Thu Oct-25-07 11:04 PM
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39. I believe those who think he's a bigot also support Hillary clinton.

that is the connection to the hate posts. They reflect their candidate so well and accurately.

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CyberPieHole

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:05 AM
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45. How (and why) did Hillary Clinton get thrown into this discussion?

What exactly does she have to do with the Obama/McClurkin debacle?

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sniffa

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Fri Oct-26-07 06:21 AM
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52. just a scapegoat

it makes the obama peopLe feeL better, and excuses what's going on in their minds.

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ronnykmarshall

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:36 AM
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71. Because everything is about Hillary.

This whole "Donnie-gate" thing is a riot.

I think it SO ironic that supporters of Obama (some of them) have the nerve to cry and moan about the "evil and heartless" Hillary supporters ..... yet I've seen several comments attacking HRC supporter in the same manner.

Again, I'll refer to my sig line.

Do Bee a nice poster.

Don't Bee a poo-poo thrower.

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western mass

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Thu Oct-25-07 11:07 PM
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40. Why is he going around with bigots & homophobes?

answer that question.

These questionable judgments add up.

Lieberman, anybody?

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beaconess

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Thu Oct-25-07 11:14 PM
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41. "I want to be the candidate of the guys with the Confederate flag decals on their pickup trucks."

Howard Dean -2003.

Do you think that make HIM a bigot?

(For the record, and before folks go into conniptions at the thought that someone other than Obama is being called a bigot, my answer to that is NO).

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western mass

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Fri Oct-26-07 09:51 AM
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66. Obama is not a bigot...

He is showing terrible judgment by sharing a stage with a well-known bigot.

That holds true whatever anybody else has done. Pointing fingers at other peoples' mistakes does not absolve Obama of his own stupid mistake.

By the way, Howard Dean used a poor choice of words, for which he got a beating. In the end, it was clear he meant "embrace poor white southern voters", not "embrace white racists." If Dean had gone on a revival tour with David Duke, that would be a different matter entirely...THEN we could compare it fairly to what Obama is doing now.

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TankLV

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Fri Oct-26-07 12:15 AM
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42. I do - trouble is - he doesn't KNOW he is - and that's what's sad...

bigotry in any shape or form is still bigotry...

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CyberPieHole

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Fri Oct-26-07 01:57 AM
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44. No. He's neither a bigot nor a homophobe.

The criticism is valid, however, because he is supplying a bigot and a homophobe a public forum. One thing does not exclude the other. And I don't get the whole "trying to bring America together" ploy. Will he be giving a public forum to Ted Nugent next (and at the last minute add a token member of PETA)? It was irresponsible and ill-advised for Obama to ask McClurkin to sing.

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Behind the Aegis

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:29 AM
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46. I don't think he is a bigot.

I have never heard him make bigoted remarks or even homophobic ones.

"Whats the point with all the criticism?"

That makes no sense in regards to the original question, unless you are implying that those who question this situation with the gospel tour are implying Obama is a bigot.

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MonkeyFunk

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:43 AM
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47. I don't think he's a bigot at all...

but I think he made a terrible and politically tone-deaf error in this situation.

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Voltaire99

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:58 AM
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49. No, merely another triangulator.

One who has learned his Clinton spinning lessons well.

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ronnykmarshall

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:37 AM
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72. ABC

Always
Blame
Clinton

Just like the RW does.

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Trajan

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Fri Oct-26-07 03:14 AM
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50. More nonsense from the Extremist Candidate Partisans .....

It's a small negative (Obama's predicament), but the partisan knives around here are long and sharp ....

Im sick and tired of being sick and tired about it ....

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sniffa

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Fri Oct-26-07 06:23 AM
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53. no, just a bigot enabLer

that's the point of aLL the criticism.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Fri Oct-26-07 06:25 AM
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54. "Got My Ass Kicked Doing Community Service"

DSB

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Kitsune

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Fri Oct-26-07 06:56 AM
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55. He just thinks he can have it both ways.

That's not the same thing as being a bigot, and I don't think he is one, but neither is something I'd want in a candidate.

This isn't something that's only true of Obama, mind; this is the same reason I don't want Hillary anywhere near the nomination (he said, risking total thread derailment).

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trotsky

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Fri Oct-26-07 07:20 AM
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58. I've been a pretty harsh critic of his even before the McClurkin incident.

And even I don't think he is a bigot. Inexperienced, yes. Not quite in tune with people unlike him, yes. But not a bigot.

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ChairmanAgnostic

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Fri Oct-26-07 08:43 AM
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59. he handled Alan Keyes with aplomb, humor and wit.

of course, Keyes provided a lot of ammo.

nope, none of those things apply to him.

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phen43

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Fri Oct-26-07 08:56 AM
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62. No Way

The man is clearly a representative of all people and TOLERATE of ALL people:patriot:

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rateyes

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Fri Oct-26-07 09:16 AM
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63. He's a member of the United Church of Christ...

...one of the most progressive Christian denominations when it comes to equality for ALL people. To call him bigoted with all this "guilt by association" crapola is utter nonsense.

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MNDemNY

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Fri Oct-26-07 09:31 AM
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64. I fear that he may have made

a conscious decision to include this "ex-homosexual" to boost his standing with Black evangelicals.
Making him, yes , at least an abettor of bigotry.

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Imagevision

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Fri Oct-26-07 09:59 AM
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67. Obama is the best thing that's come down the pike since RFK...!

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ronnykmarshall

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:28 AM
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68. So much so his son is endorsing Hillary Clinton.

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Zuiderelle

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Fri Oct-26-07 11:53 AM
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74. Priceless.

Absolutely priceless! :D

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saracat

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Fri Oct-26-07 02:15 PM
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79. But RFK widow endorses Obama! Ethel is the one that states Obama is like Bobby.

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SaveOurDemocracy

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Fri Oct-26-07 10:54 AM
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73. I do not believe Obama is a bigot.

Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 10:55 AM by SaveOurDemocracy

I believe he is a good and decent man who was persuaded into running prematurely. I don't believe 2008 is 'his time', or that he has yet proven that he has necessary skills, knowledge, or political savvy to lead our country (and our dysfunctional Congress) out of this black hole we've been dragged into. I do believe he has the best of intentions but, disappointingly, he hasn't been able to win my confidence.

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terrya

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Fri Oct-26-07 11:58 AM
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75. He's not a bigot.

But there's someone on his staff...and someone very high up...with a deep, profound lack of understanding of the GLBT community and the issues they care about.

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alteredstate

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Fri Oct-26-07 12:07 PM
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76. I don't think Senator Obama is a bigot.

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