Why so many Dean bashing threads today....

Here's why the anybody but Dean folks freaked out today...


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that's almost 200k today alone.


No wonder the attack threads are in overdrive.

anybody is checking "the Bat"...I know I don't. I think that most supporters of other candidates are feeling like Howard Dean is saying things that don't make much sense to them, and to journalists...so there are a lot of stories to post about Dean...take your pick:

Secret papers
Secret Energy meetings
Osama Flip/Flop
Dean can't guarantee support to another candidate from his supporters

That's a lot in just a 2/3 day interval.....hence more posts!

Remember before....only stories about Dean was he could do not wrong...now, avalanche of stories saying otherwise....hence more posts.

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Basically, Dean doesn't want the USA to execute anyone, even Osama, without a fair trial first.

This obviously unAmerican stance has some patriotic Democrats joining with Bush to condemn Dean for his extremist belief in the Constitution!

I assume living abroad can do a lot to clear your mind.

If Osama isn't the guilty party then how do you justify the whole invasion and over-throw of the Taliban? It's a chicken and egg problem; of course Osama did admit doing the deed on tape. Dean seems to have problems framing what he means.

BTW, was that the fat Osama or the thin Osama?

About Afghanistan, the Taliban (supposedly) protected terrorist camps, and the rest of the world supported putting them out of business.

The aftermath, however, has been so inexcusable that it's now difficult not to view this explanation cynically.

because the evidence pointed to Osama and Al Queda; the action was pre-emptive and unilateral, and was supposed to be justified by the evidence. The world put a sock in it because it was after 9/11; in the other 9/11 thread Clark was right - we should have built a coalition to combat terror.

America is indeed at war. The attacks in New York and Washington have raised the dangers posed by international terrorism to a new level. But despite the awful familiarity of the devastation, an effective US response is likely to be something unfamiliar.

For the US, the weapons of this war should be information, law enforcement and, rarely, active military force. The coalition that will form around the US and its Nato allies should agree on its intent, but not trumpet its plans. No vast military deployments should be anticipated. But urgent measures should be taken behind the scenes because the populations and economic structures of western nations will be at risk.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4257771-103677,00.html

I remember Colin Powell telling us the evidence was forthcoming.

But I don't seem to remember the evidence itself. Funny thing.

I don't remember hearing Osama admit that he had anything to do with 9/11...I remember hearing him praising what happened but I didn't hear him take any credit for it...unless I missed something...but that doesn't mean that I think he isn't guilty of terrorist acts...he is a dangerous man and should be tried for crimes against humanity...

Dean has never said Osama isn't guilty. He said that in America we don't sentence someone without a fair trial. What a concept!! So, you don't think it possible that Osama would use the attacks as a recruiting tool even if he wasn't responsible? The 'confession' means nothing. This is nothing more then spin from those who seek to crush the only viable candidate (with a history of being a Democrat) that we have.

i guess that's good enough for dean supporters.

this blunder was a real kick in the guts for me because for once, i actually agreed with him. as i read his first statement, i thought,
good! he's emphasizing that the American way is due process, innocent until proven guilty by a fair trail.

then he flipped and basicly said 'like all Americans. i want him dead.' the emphasis now on vengence rather than the rule of law.

first Dean said that Osama should be tried and we should reserve judgement......

Then hours later, after that Ap story went out, he clarified that Osama deserves the Death penalty....

Maybe he ran out of mind controlling kool-aid . . .

Dean can't guarantee support to another candidate from his supporters"

in his latest round of anti-christ shennanigans.

"Dean can't guarantee support to another candidate from his supporters."

Yet, in other threads, we are accused of being mindless robots marching in "lockstep."

Hmmm. Throw enough shit at the wall and maybe something will stick.

will support any other candidate?

"Dean can't guarantee support to another candidate from his supporters"

Oh really? and you attack Dean for "Koolaid" and call us "Bots" but then attack him again because he can't "Guarantee" his support is transferable?

Has Clark Guaranteed this anywhere? And if so, how can he guarantee it? Will he be in the voting booth with his supporters?

May I suggest you clean up your wall. All the shit being tosssed against it is running onto your floor.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=33793&mesg_id=33793

The ABD crowd grows more fearful daily. As well they should. ;-)

Julie

It's the odoriferous emanations of Bolshevik methods and mendacity that is being caught onto around the country. Praise be to Jesus from a man who raised his kids Jewish, and the like.

Great word....

emanations...not bad....

Jesus, jewish and Bolshevic all in one statement.....NEAT!

Why do I get the feeling he doesn't like Clark or Kerry either?

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Bush '04 = Draft '05

not part of the solution.

we are soooo screwed..........

would have a good deal more credibility to it, if you didn't engage in so much of it yourself.

you're right...I didn't notice that it was the big bad TLM or TML...

last time I checked in, there was a thread up that bat was going broke, for crissakes.

that's not it.

Not the number, anyway. It's just that Dean is all over the place and in your face.

I didn't think all that much of him from the getgo, but figgered I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

I tend to think less of him every day, and every time he opens his mouth. "Loose cannon" comes to mind. I just prefer not to start bashing threads. Others have less self-control.

I'm not ABD, though, and I'll work for him if he gets the nod, I'd just rather work for somebody else. Like Clark.

Learn to live with it. It won't get any better no matter what the bat does.

As long as their going on, I know Dean is doing something right!

the 'Dean attacks = climbing #'s' is called climbing the wall of worry. Every attacks brings a firmer footing for the upward climb. Every 'support level' is tested, debated, & discussed and then Dean throws a few grappling hooks and goes higher and higher.

It has been a PERFECT campaign season for Dean. Every alleged 'gaff' only established the next level of real support. Recall the 'it's over now' anti-Dean crowd. It's AMAZING that the other campaigns have performed so pitifully and clearly helped Dean all the way. With other nominee players I could imagine them, behind the scenes. congratulating Dean, and all working for the demise of the Bush camp.

Dean '04...

is Republican money from Republican donors...won't ever know will we?
Oh, what money can buy.

How is he doing?

AP had several yesterday alone.