Not a SINGLE gay person should leave DU over this shit

You are totally and utterly in the right in this situation and you should not let cowardly words written by unenlightened and uninformed people, hiding behind the shield of anonymity, turn you away from a discussion board that is rightfully as much yours as anyone else's.

If you leave, they win.

n/t

I get so tired of fighting. :(

It's a joke.

It's also kind of sad that it hasn't been locked, but there you go.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3660080&mesg_id=3660080

for all to marvel at.

Like a piece of really, really bad, unintentionally hysterical art.

drive a big truck? Just askin'.

Is it merely descriptive, or is it an opinion?

the spelling of it isn't a joke!

#5 on Teh Gay Agenda is "Running the Democratic Party".

(I still can't believe someone seriously posted that.)

Since us gays are just talking among ourselves maybe someone can help me with this. It is off topic a little but one of Obama's most vocal defenders of the use of McSinger on the program has repeatedly asserted his personal love of the gays by stating "I am straight but I have done grassroots outreach in the gay community for many years". I have asked what it means (as have others) but have received no response.

Do you have any idea what grassroots outreach in the gay community might be? I have thought about it and thought about it and can't recall a single activity of outreach other than coming to our bars to dance.

BTW - what do you think of the new bar?

"I am straight but I have done grassroots outreach in the gay community for many years."

Well, I know what it sounds like to ME but maybe I just have a suspicious mind!!! LOL!

I haven't been to the new bar. Is it nice?

Perhaps we should plan a meetup and let the Obama person come do a little outreach.

On the other hand, he probably doesn't want to meet a bunch of women.

Democrat party?

"The gays"?

Showing your cards?

In another thread.

I don't read EVERY thread.....

:)

and they don't, but if we don't fight for THEIR civil rights, we have no reason to expect ours will be protected

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3659741&mesg_id=3659811

XOXOX

Just when you think we might have a little plateau in the DU primary roller-coaster ride. Hang in there folks. Obama's wound is self-inflicted. He will have either learned a lesson that will serve him well in the future, or he won't... and posters with attitudes as the one identified on that thread-- I truly believe-- are in the distinct minority.

alrighty then

:rofl:

thanks Bear! :hi:

:grr:

:eyes:

And feel like you're having a terrible dream?

agreed

For one thing, it appears to me that an enormous majority of DUers disagree with Obama's behavior. Many Obama supporters have posted their disappointment here.

There are a small handful of troublemakers - most of them longtime, known troublemakers - who are attempting to disrupt the board over this. I've put them on ignore. Problem solved!

:yourock:

that is all.

:toast:

Look at it this way, its an opportunity for your ignore lists to fulfill their mighty destinies through rapid growth.

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"I ain't leavin'"

what in the hell is wrong with people..I thought the republicans were the group that discriminate. Lighten up DU. It takes all kinds, all colors and all religions to make up this world. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS JUST AS GOOD AS THE OTHER.

I have had gay friends all my life, back in the 50's and 60's when we were discriminated against because we refused to not associate with them. They were my friends damn it and still are.

:hi:

Speaking personally, I don't intend to leave DU permanently, but had seriously considered taking a (long) break. I suffer from S.A.D. and things like this are really hard to deal with right now. But I'm heartened by the granite slab I just saw on one particularly egregious thread, so maybe I'll stick around a bit longer. :hi:

But according to a certain Obama supporter, she's lost a few friends.

THEY can go the fuck away.

I have been a Democrat longer than I have been gay so I can not be moved.

I think a lot of people (gay and straight) have just found their voice within this political party by slapping down bigotry - sometimes nicely packaged but bigotry nevertheless.

I am going to stick around and watch the voices grow.

Let the river run.

I wonder what people would say if one of the Dem candidates was campaigning with a Klan member?

It's just another "point of view". :eyes:

in support of their candidate. it's creepy.

the ignorance is breathtaking

It's just another point of view, dintcha know?

And don't you know I just love when, in their tortured defense of Rev. McClosetCase's 1/2 hour sermon of hate and homophobia, posters actually have the audacity to reference MLK. As if Dr. King ever said we have to give bigots a microphone and an audience.

I've seen the question issued - "Well, what then do we do with the bigots and the homophobes?". My answer? I don't give a fuck...let them come to right and reason or they can fuck off and become even more archaic and outdated while the world moves on without them. Like we're supposed to have "meaningful dialogue" with Neanderthals who judge others by their orientation....or their skin color...or their religion (or lack thereof.....or their place of birth....etc.

implying bigotry against gays is ok if it is somebody's religious belief and how dare we question that.

if you're up in arms about this and slamming Rev. McClosetCase, you're anti-religion

:crazy:

It's amazing what pretzels people will turn themselves into to avoid having to admit that their preferred candidate made a mistake.

It's also a sign of how many people think that homophobia is perfectly ok.

Hillary. that is one sure sign they have no other argument.

I am tired of people using pseudo Christianity to justify bigotry and hatred. My Christianity is inclusive, not exclusive. People that quote Leviticus without knowing Biblical history as well as ancient history are doing nothing more than giving all people of faiths a bad name. Just as I don't believe God has ever talked the Bush, I don't believe he is judging people by Roberts' standards.

My sil is gay and her sexuality has never been hidden. She is also my daughter's favorite aunt and a great mom. Many denominations say they have an anti-discrimination policy but in many churches it's just words on paper. My sil attends the same church we do and while we are an itty bitty congregation everyone is welcome. Out gay members are not shoved to the side lines. They also serve in leadership roles. It's faith not sexuality that makes you a person of faith. It just chaps my hide when I see someone crying about religious beliefs to justify discrimination of any kind.

Until I started reading the GLBT board I thought I understood gay issues. I learned how wrong I was and I am still learning. I guess I will am anti-religion also because I sure don't agree with what Obama did.

but what's even more troubling to me is Obama's rationalization for including this disgusting homophobe in his campaign event. He actually portrayed the "LGBT community" and the "faith-based community" as mutually exclusive entities. That's truly disappointing.

Wow, I was only told to get lost. :( BTW, I have been enjoying your posts. Keep up the good work.

The state of denial and minimization they get in.

I have taken GLBT rights as a given. My brother is gay and I thought I understood. I do not understand, and this impassioned debate has got one individual a little closer to "getting it".

I noticed the thread that you started as well. Everything you do to support gay rights also supports all human rights. Thank you!

I hope nobody leaves DU over this.

Let's not use it as a wedge issue.

Fuck that shit.

http://members.shaw.ca/trogl/orient.html

(yes, I'm getting tired of posting this too)

I misssed it. :shrug: Wha'happened?

Just search Obama, McClurkin and Gays. Come back in a week after you've read it all. :rofl:

The 'phobes can bite the big one.

There's only so much the Mods can do and they do a Valiant job IMO !

It's hard to be open to all comers and keep the troglodytes at bay at the same time.

Please People USE THE ALERT.