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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:18 AM Original message |
Hillary "Troubled" By Mukasey On Torture, But Won't Rule Out Supporting Him |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. And this doesn't bother those on DU who say they are against torture? |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. somehow they`ll deflect the issue as a smear against hillary. |
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The Wielding Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. This should be more than enough to reject him! |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. Apparently there are some DUers who are not against torture |
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BobRossi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. What do you expect.... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. Get Ready For The New War from 44! |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. Hillary is in a tight spot, here: |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I believe you have nailed it. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Joe :Lieberman does take principled stands. They're his principles, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Deleted message |
robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. She is the only dem candidate who won't take a stand on FISA! |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
63. Hillary voted against the GOP FISA bill n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. How did she do that? the vote hasn't happened yet. |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. The last time FISA was up in the Senate. n/t |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. great, but a worse one is up right now, and every other candidate has taken a stand. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. P.S. It is not only Clinton, but in reality Clinton and Richardson. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
7. Wow, what leadership |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
8. This one's such a gimme |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Agreed. nt |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
70. Exactly! Thank you. -nt |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
10. She should oppose him. n/t |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. ah, Hil, so torture is now merely "troubling" |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
12. This is our "leadership"? |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
14. He's Chuck Schumer's guy and she's under pressure from Schumer to support him. nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. So just chuck away any principles she might have, for Schumer? As |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. All votes in the senate are a product of bargaining. I hope she votes 'no' too. nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I guess that's true, except for people like Feingold, who actually has |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. LOVE Feingold and wish he were running. Clark/Feingold was my dream. nt |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
16. And that sums her up perfectly. |
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Amerigo Vespucci (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
18. Consistency is king... |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. LOL at that third one |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
21. Of course it's unclear. When has she ever taken a clear position on anything? |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
24. Keep that powder dry, Hill! n/t |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. She's ruled out supporting him unless he repudiates torture. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Well, that's easy enough. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. I've heard the president. Hillary has decided to make the |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
27. This OP is a sexist republican talking point...did I get that right Clintonites? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Nope. The correct answer is "HRC opposed Mukasey" |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Kyl/ Lieberman eom |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Excuse me? Me or Sargent from TPM? Either way, you're way off base. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. It was a joke, should have put the sarcasm tag on. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. i thought Mukasey was pretty clear: the president can do whatever he wants |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Here |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. huh? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You're right. I apologize |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. no worries |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R, more on Mukasey here... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Hillary opposes Mukasey |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. ...finally. She didn't when this thread was started. nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Given that for 7 years we've had a president who won't change his mind, |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Finally? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Then you calling anyone who writes anything about it a 'smear' is a |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Yes a bit premature IMO n/t |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Did you even look at the thread I posted, where is the smear??? |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Well, I guess the political winds finally blew in her direction |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
41. Take note, Hill-shills... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Take note Hillary Haters |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. WTF Is A Hill Shill ? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I'm noy a Hillary supporter or "hill shill" as you so |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. Once again, on both sides of a major issue |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Wrong. She's opposing Mukasey. She's issued a statement |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. She's voting against Mukasey, so the issue is moot. What were you saying again? nt |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Behold who posted this: you were saying? |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Aren't We Supposed To Think Before Acting? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. You're discounting standing on principle, which she didn't appear to do. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Mukasey Will Get Serventy Plus Votes |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. That has nothing to do with the principles of the person in question, but |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. How can you be sure Hillary has sinister motives? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. When it comes to torture, this should be a no-brainer for the candidates. |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. Mmmmm....waffles. |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
71. She officially dumped him on the 30th. Per her office: the link is below. |
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