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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:37 PM Original message |
Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Workers |
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sasha031 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thomas Hartman was talking about that |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. Another wedge issue that is actually irrelevent |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Gay Marriage Should Have Been Irrelevant Too |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sadly, you're citing logic while the OP is predicting emotion |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. Would you prefer to have people driving cars |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. I totally agree with this |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. At least she has clarified |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. Very important issue... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I Think There's A Different Phenomenon At Work... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I disagree... |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I Went To School In Miami |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. It's not about nationality or race at all... |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
39. I disagree |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. That doesn't make sense though |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. The simplest way to "protect" the borders would be to fine employers... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Fine |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I'm not sure it's possible to measure it... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I wouldn't give them |
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dugggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. You are 100% correct....hefty fines for EMPLOYERS will solve |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. While I recognize the political perils of DLs for undocumented workers..... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. It's not "progressive" to fail to protect the borders imo. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. A True Progressive Would Say Borders Are Irrelevant And We All Occupy One Planet |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It's not "progressive" to be foolish either. nt |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Hmmm |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Sure we're part of the same web... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. What is the "progressive" position on immigration then? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. imo a progressive position is what I suggested in #22 nt |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. That's not much |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. No offense to any race or nationality... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I disagree both on the facts of the matter and the politics of it |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. We don't disagree on going after the employers... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. But the corollary is to not go after undocumented residents |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Using the term "undocumented workers" is pandering... |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Using that term is not pandering |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Actually, it's pandering to racists to use the term "illegal" |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Cuke, I respect your ideas |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. My mistake, Mike |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. What need to use which phrases? |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
60. I re read my post and I don't see the word "need" anywhere |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You didn't. It was my mistake |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. exactly on the documents part |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. Confused on this issue |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. Keeping these people unidentified makes it easy for those |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. bingo. nt |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
16. Until we find a permanent solution it has merit |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
17. I understand there are about |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. None of the presidential candidates wants to give DL's to undocumented residents |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
26. Have you forgotten that Hispanics are the largest growing population in the country? |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. sigh |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
65. The OP was discussing the politics of this |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
35. The conversation is not about immigration - it is about identification. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Hillary's response was "nuanced" because she's smart enough... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. "bleeding hearts" |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I don't give a fig about anything the Reps say... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So then you won't mind not repeating right wing propoganda, right? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm proud to be a liberal with a heart that bleeds for others... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So then you won't mind not repeating right wing propoganda, right? |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Lol |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Liberals came up with the word "liberal", not repukes |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Thanks for getting involved. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. A lot of effort went into being unclear |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. What don't you understand? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I understand fine, now |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. It helps if you're not so concerned about what right-wingers think... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
66. The issue was about immigration, though not really about drivers' licenses |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
63. Best bet is as a State's Rights issue. "States control liscensing, not washington" |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-31-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
67. Correct. |
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