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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:31 PM
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Should we oppose Mukasey because he refuses to acknowledge that this Admin approved torture?
I think we should, but you must realize that no BushCorp nominee will acknowledge that water-boarding or anything else BushCorp has authorized is torture. If they did then they would be required to take action against the torturers.

Hell I am willing to oppose each and every person BushCorp nominates.

Impeach Cheney first.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:33 PM
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1. Yup...of course we should oppose him....Bush has to be stopped with this crap
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:36 PM
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2. Yes of course.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:39 PM
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3. And this...
...Aspects of his record, however, are troubling. As a judge, he was too deferential to the government. In the case of Jose Padilla, who was accused of participating in a dirty bomb plot, he ruled that the president may detain American citizens indefinitely as “enemy combatants.” His dangerously narrow reading of the Constitution was rightly reversed by a federal appeals court.

In a 2004 Wall Street Journal op-ed article, Mr. Mukasey denounced the “hysteria” of Patriot Act critics, and lashed out at the American Library Association for trying to protect patrons’ privacy. He also made the dubious claim that based on the structure of the Constitution, the government should “receive from its citizens the benefit of the doubt.” And writing in The Journal this year, he promoted the truly awful idea of a separate national security court that would try suspected terrorists...


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/18/opinion/18tue1.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

NGU.


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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:29 PM
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7. Thank you for that. Scary. nm
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:45 PM
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9. This government doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt
Its track record clearly demonstrates that it will do anything, say anything, and deny everything to advance its crooked agenda. It's the citizens who are supposed to get the benefit of the doubt, Judge Mukasey. That whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing?

ABC News actually had a visual that Mukasey nomination could be in trouble, which really shocked me. I'd really like to see the Democrats shoot another lousy nomination down, for a change.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:34 AM
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12. "In trouble" would mean that we were close to the number needed to defeat
his nomination. I count only four Democrats committing to voting no. Doesn't sound like "in trouble" to me. ABC is just trying to scare the repukes into supporting Mukasey.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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4. I think it is a good time to actually define torture ... again.


This is an impeachable offense and I think should at the very least by run up the flagpole.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:41 PM
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5. Not a doubt in my mind!

junior and his dick sez their water boarding techniques are safe and sound.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:31 PM
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6. we should oppose
because he showed himself to be a bushie. and supported all he did.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:19 PM
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8. K&R
I am with you!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 10:52 PM
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10. We should not confirm him...
but understand that we'll get a recess appointment for X-Mas.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 11:16 PM
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11. Bush's appointments to any post we can name have been invariably
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 11:16 PM by Old Crusoe
abominable.

A president needs to choose the best he can find to fill appointments.

If someone like John Danforth is available, why would any Republican president choose a shitheel like Mukasey? There's a world of difference in our not being crazy about Danforth and feeling that Mukasey is little better than Gonzales.

A President Gore or a President Kerry would have chosen someone highly qualified to sit in their Cabinets, and would never have the problem of being on their third excruciatingly bad AG pick.
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ralbertson Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 12:08 PM
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13. Well, as I wrote about Mukasey & torture on my other day-job blog...
...which day-job blog post can be read in its entirety here, ahem...

http://www.johnkerry.com/2007/11/1/just-say-no-mukasey



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This past September George W. Bush, the President of the United States — a position that, prior to his ascendancy at least, was generally seen as also being the nominal leader of the free world — nominated Michael Mukasey to replace his deposed crony Alberto Gonzales as U.S. Attorney General.

Mr. Gonzales, as you may recall, resigned his office under a dark cloud of accusations that included mendacity, arrogance, incompetence, and consistently putting partisan politics before public policy.

More to the point, in hearings before Congress Mr. Gonzales displayed a stubborn insistence on protecting the expansion of arbitrary presidential authority without accountability, and he repeatedly refused to condemn the use of extreme interrogation techniques like waterboarding as illegal and immoral actions that violate our best values and traditions.

And now this morning George W. Bush, the ultimate Roadblock Republican, the Obstructionist-in-Chief, petulantly accused Democrats of emboldening the terrorists and putting America’s security on the chopping block should they fail to confirm Mr. Mukasey’s nomination, thus leaving us without an Attorney General at a time when we are perched on the brink of a nuclear World War III in the Middle East. And so forth.

Mr. Mukasey, as you may recall, in hearings before Congress has displayed a stubborn insistence on protecting the expansion of arbitrary presidential authority without accountability, and he has repeatedly refused to condemn the use of extreme interrogation techniques like waterboarding as illegal and immoral actions that violate best values and traditions.

If this was the plot of a Tom Clancy novel, it might be fascinating to read but nobody would think it could ever happen in America. Unfortunately, this isn’t fiction. It’s real life, coming to you courtesy of the single most mendacious, arrogant, and imperialistic administration in our nation’s history.

Not surprisingly, Senator Kerry has no intention of allowing Mr. Mukasey to be confirmed as U.S. Attorney General:

Judge Mukasey’s refusal to classify the barbaric practice of waterboarding as torture waves a red flag about his nomination to serve an Administration that has adhered to the Cheney doctrine on executive power and torture.

I am not comfortable confirming anyone who cannot see that this method of interrogation is antithetical to American values and traditions — especially not to a position that is charged with representing our entire justice system. We need to re-establish faith in the Department of Justice.

Many of us wanted to believe that Judge Mukasey could undo the damage of the Gonzales years. Unfortunately his lack of candor and his refusal to acknowledge this abuse of power suggest he is unable or unwilling to do so, and this is why I will be opposing Judge Mukasey’s nomination to be the next Attorney General of the United States.


Also not surprisingly, seeing that their choice for another complicit AG is in danger of being turned down, the Roadblock Republicans have turned to their minions in the media and their spokesbots in the conservative blogosphere for a full-court press in defense of Mr. Mukasey’s nomination. Their standard combination of obstructionism and obfuscation has managed to muddy the waters for many of their viewers/readers, leading liberal blogger and longtime Democratic activist Casey Morris to boil it back down to a more concise clarity in this post from the Democracy Cell Project website:


(Snipped for length -- for excellent essay on Mukasey issues by Casey Morris, as quoted in my own blog post, click here.)


We agree with Casey Morris that allowing Mr. Mukasey to become the next U.S. Attorney General would be just all kinds of wrong — and so do Senator Kerry, Senator Kennedy, Senator Biden, Senator Durbin, Senator Whitehouse, and an ever-growing list of other Senators and Representatives who believe that it’s high time to rein in the Bush administration’s rampant excesses and kick the Roadblock Republicans back to the curb where they belong.



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