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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:22 PM Original message |
Was Howard Dean a "poor widdle me" disgrace to manhood? |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nope; it was the same and it was the beginning of his downfall |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good luck with that one, sweetie. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. How do you think he should have handled it? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. At that time the kind of back-and-forth between Dean and his supporters |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. What does that have to do with the basic premise |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Here's one problem: |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Tweety's taking credit for the kitchen bit, |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Was Tweety even there? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. I don't know what you're pointing out. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. The comparison is limited to attacks on a frontrunner, and the frontrunner responding |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Candidates all object to attacks. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I haven't seen polls on that. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You've probably seen this already: |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Yeah. |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. He should have responded to the criticism in addition to just pointing them out |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. It was a disgrace for someone that wanted to be a "Leader" |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. How was it "whining?" |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. In your own words "poor widdle me" |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I asked a question. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. She did a sneakily good job of setting the tone, didn't she? |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Kick for those with selective memories. |
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oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. It serves to underline the fact that Edwards hasn't departed from his mudslinging tactics. (eom) |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That's the truth. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. You don't want to throw Hillary into the same boat with Dean.. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
11. Dean Brought Up Valid Voting Records And Candidate |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. Oh, there is so much I can say about someone in NH and who skipped Iowa |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. You are completely missing her point |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No, I got her point. You do not get my point. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You are so wrong |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. You are making this into a comparison of Dean and Hillary |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Exactly. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Fair enough- from the horse's mouth |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
13. Time to get out some poor little me files....you think? That was 4 years ago. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. Senator Clinton has to be careful. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. The only comparison and point of discussion |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. But you must admit that the "gender card" makes for one |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Candidates all have different ways of appealing to voters. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Because some of us, Sparkly, don't find it appealing. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. That's okay. |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. "all-boys club of presidential politics" |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. I hope you don't include me in that category, |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. And I think that's a perfectly valid point of view. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
41. Her playing the victim could bury her in the GE. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Lieberman said that about Dean. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I think you misjudge historical support of Dr. Dean nt |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Not sure what you mean. |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You're acting like the majority of people felt that Dean was a good candidate and... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. He was in the lead. |
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jmp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. America doesn't want a Victim-in-Chief |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Given that this is routine for frontrunners, |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
50. What Zahn referred to, Sparkly...and you know it well.... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I remember that well. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I don't give a damn if you criticize him. Don't you get it? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I'm really not interested in discussing the particulars of all that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Since this is the 2nd post on the topic.... |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-02-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Didn't see the other one. |
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