Who is more liberal: Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton?

Sparkly

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Tue Nov-06-07 12:50 PM
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Who is more liberal: Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton?

Quick references:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Joe_Biden.htm

Which do you consider more liberal, and why?

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Sparkly

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Tue Nov-06-07 01:17 PM
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1. Hm.

Tough one? :kick:

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Tue Nov-06-07 01:18 PM
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2. They are quite similar, along with Obama

Deciding between those three is more a matter of personaility, electablity, experience, knowledge and leadership traits than about issue positions.

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Sparkly

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Tue Nov-06-07 08:02 PM
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4. I think Edwards, Obama and Clinton are closer

than they are to Biden. But still, I agree -- not a whole lot of distance among any of them.

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Think82

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Tue Nov-06-07 01:30 PM
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3. depends on the issue.

But I will say, Joe is comfortable where he is in the middle-left, and CLinton seems to run in both directions at once. Also, Joe is more of a consensus-builder.

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jlake

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Tue Nov-06-07 08:07 PM
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7. My thoughts exactly.

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Basileus Basileon

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Tue Nov-06-07 08:08 PM
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8. And the last part there is why I support him.

Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 08:09 PM by Basileus Basileon

Biden, I believe, will be more effective at building coalitions than Clinton will, and as such will be able to accomplish more. Hillary is a great fighter, yeah, and I'm sure she'd make a fine leader. I simply think that Biden will be better.

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Bonobo

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Tue Nov-06-07 08:04 PM
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5. Who is more sincere is a more important question.

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Basileus Basileon

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Tue Nov-06-07 08:05 PM
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6. I'd give the edge to Hillary, honestly. nt

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OHdem10

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Tue Nov-06-07 09:23 PM
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9. Biden, HRC, and Obama very similar ---

Edwards is the most Social and Economic Justice Liberal.

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maximusveritas

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Tue Nov-06-07 09:25 PM
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10. Clinton, no contest

Even a cursory look at their records will tell you that. Clinton is a liberal running toward the center for the election. Biden is a moderate running toward the left for the election.

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ruggerson

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Tue Nov-06-07 09:28 PM
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11. I think she has more liberal leanings

I think he has more of a centrist philosophy.

I think he has a far more authentic vision than she does. She is all pragmatism without enough driving ideology.

I think he also comes across as more genuine than she does.

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sandnsea

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Tue Nov-06-07 09:29 PM
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12. Biden, no contest

Although not as liberal as Leahy, Kennedy or Kerry.

Why? When he talks he talks about issues real working people face and he understands those issues. On work with a union worker day, he went home with the worker and ate dinner at the kitchen table and was as comfortable as any factory or service worker would have been.

Joe's a good guy. He has the common touch. He actually might be the best candidate with both foreign policy experience and traditional working class values.

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joe_sixpack

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Tue Nov-06-07 09:44 PM
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13. I agree whole heartedly, but what...

I can't understand, is why he is not considered good enough to compete with Edwards, Obama and Hillary? I talk to a lot of people who agree Biden would make a good president. When I ask why they don't support him, I usually get a shrug and something to the effect of that he doesn't have a chance. Why doesn't he have a chance? Because all the news media says the only candidates interesting enough for our short attention spans are Obama, because he's black; Edwards, because he was on the last ticket; and Hillary, because... well she's Hillary. Think for yourselves people!

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sandnsea

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Tue Nov-06-07 10:22 PM
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14. My two reasons, maybe three

My first reason for not supporting him was that he has always been a great talker, but disappointed me repeatedly when it came down to the vote. Rice, the Alito filibuster. He just never seems to be there when you really need him. The other is his tendency to put his foot in his mouth, and talk on and on. He's great in 3 minute chunks, but as a candidate, yikes, not so sure. I don't really know why he and Dodd aren't getting more traction, I think the country just wants something very very new.

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IndianaGreen

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Tue Nov-06-07 10:38 PM
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15. Biden is an old fashioned liberal. Hillary is a Goldwater "girl."

Supporting torture is NOT liberal. Supporting an imperial Presidency, and protecting a crazy Vice President, is not liberal either.

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