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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:51 PM
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In Iowa it's Hillary's pragmatism vs Obama Fever
Obama's ability to inspire in this way gives him the opportunity to reach people who traditionally don't participate in politics. Repeatedly, over the course of three Obama campaign stops, I met individuals who said they were planning to caucus for the first time. There were black men in their twenties, single mothers, and high-school and college students, all of whom declared they'd found their way into politics for the first time through the Obama campaign. I even met a few die-hard Obama supporters who had previously been staunch Republicans.

Angela McGee, an attendee at the gymnasium event in Muscatine, tried to herd four small children while she explained that she's supporting Obama because she likes "his personality and his thoughts on health care." Asked if she considered any other candidates, she said, "No, I'm just really, really stuck on Obama." Then she volunteered, with visible pride, "This is actually the first time I've ever voted before. I've never been involved in politics before. I'm doing it for Obama."

David Camp insisted that, though he had been a Republican for 55 years, and still considered himself one, he could reconcile his abundant enthusiasm for Obama because "he's the closest thing to what a true Republican is." Standing on a dock overlooking the Mississippi River in the southeastern town of Burlington after Obama's had addressed supporters, I asked Camp to describe a true Republican. He described someone who bore very little resemblance to Obama. It didn't seem to matter. Asked if he would caucus for Obama, he said, "You bet. The last time I was this excited for a candidate, it was Barry Goldwater."

Senator Obama ends his campaign events with a story about a woman he met in the South who would shout a call-and-response everywhere she went in her small town. "Fired up!" she'd shout. "Fired up!" people would shout back. "Ready to go!" she'd shout. "Ready to go!" people would shout back. Obama encountered this woman on a particularly bad morning and found himself, after a few minutes, surprisingly fired up and ready to go. One voice can change a room, he says. And if it can change a room, it can change a city. "And if it can change a city, it can change a state. And if it can change a state, it can change the nation. And if it can change the nation, it can change the world."

The crowd loves it. Applause begins. "Are you fired up?" Obama yells to his audience, as the applause crescendos. "Are you ready to go?" The cheers are deafening. "Fired up!" he shouts. "Fired up!" the crowd screams back. "Ready to go!" he shouts. "Ready to go!" the crowd roars back.

Afterwards, I caught a young black man—a rarity in Iowa—on his way out of the building. "I'm fired up, baby. I'm ready to go," said Tracy McCampbell, with a huge smile. "I'm caucusing, man. First time! I was one of those people who was sucked into thinking, 'One vote doesn't make a difference, blah blah blah.' But I've changed my mind now, man. I'm ready to go."

http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2007/11/clinton-versus-obama.html
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 07:57 PM
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1. who'da thought, obama supporters excited at an obama rally :-) nt
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:02 PM
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2. Ha ha ha ha .....never ends never never ends.....ha ha ha
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:04 PM
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3. Fired up!
:hi:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:04 PM
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4.  "he's the closest thing to what a true Republican is."
Is that good?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:07 PM
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5. Did you not read the next lines?:
Edited on Thu Nov-08-07 08:08 PM by jenmito
"Standing on a dock overlooking the Mississippi River in the southeastern town of Burlington after Obama's had addressed supporters, I asked Camp to describe a true Republican. He described someone who bore very little resemblance to Obama. It didn't seem to matter. Asked if he would caucus for Obama, he said, "You bet. The last time I was this excited for a candidate, it was Barry Goldwater."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:10 PM
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:12 PM
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7. !!!!!!!!
:spray:

That may be the funniest (unintentional of course) that you have ever posted.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:14 PM
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11. I Learned At The Feet Of Masters
DSB
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:49 PM
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15. Too bad I missed the hilarious comment.
What was it? :D
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:56 PM
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17. Well
ILP castigated us Hillary supporters as only interested in smears and innuendo.

I and others found that quite amusing considering the source.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:01 PM
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19. Darn...I wish I saw it.
Thanks for the explanation, though.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:13 PM
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10. omg funniest post evah! I'm sure it was unintentional since you're humor impaired
but hilarious none the less.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:13 PM
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9. Is It Good To Be Compared To The Man That Opposed The 1964 Civil Rights Act?
However, he (Goldwater opposed the much more comprehensive Civil Rights Act of 1964; he argued that, among other things, it unconstitutionally extended the federal government's commerce power to private citizens in its drive to "legislate morality" and restrict the rights of employers. Since conservative Southern Democrats were the main opponents to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and previous civil rights legislation, Goldwater's opposition to the 1964 Act, in which he was joined by only four other non-Southern Republican senators, strongly boosted Goldwater's standing among white Southerners who opposed such federal legislation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:47 PM
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13. The person clearly doesn't know what he's talking about...
but he's excited about Obama nonetheless. Wasn't Hillary a "Goldwater girl"?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:13 PM
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8. Wow. Talk about *out of context*
Keep reading. It shows how Obama transcends traditional political / partisan stereotypes.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:48 PM
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14. Exactly.
It had to be intentional on the poster's part.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:15 PM
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12. People trust him; they don't trust Clinton. That's a big part of why he's bringing in new voters. n
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 10:58 PM
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23. After Bush, people don't trust any politicians....why
should BO be any different?

Why do you trust him?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:54 PM
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16. Hillary? Obama? What about Edwards'
Plastic, Fantastic, Super-Elastic Sound and Light Show?
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 08:58 PM
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18. Obama , can't win General Election
If he should win the nomination, in all fairness, the old bigots would come out of the woodwork to vote for the republicans, the same with Hillary, John Edwards is the man, if you want to win.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:05 PM
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20. I disagree...
There are probably as many Repubs. who will cross over and vote for Obama as bigots who will come out and vote against him. And Edwards doesn't have enough money.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:07 PM
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21. Edwards would walk away with it ... get behind a winner people
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-08-07 09:09 PM
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22. He doesn't have enough money. He took matching funds "on principle"...
remember? :eyes:
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