Obama's campaign rhetoric reminds me of Reagan in 1980 and 1984

Obama's strategy seems to be to outflank Hillary by presenting himself as even more conservative than she. His rhetoric reminds me of Ronald Reagan's campaigns. I keep waiting for Peggy Noonan to pop up behind Obama at a campaign stop in Iowa.

Obama appeals to right-wing curmudgeons by echoing their gripes about hippies and long-hairs. He sounds like he's standing around retirement villages at Hilton Head with a bunch of old white guys who wear their sansabelts up around their necks.

Then Obama turns around and tries to appeal to the younger set by claiming that he's actually one of them, not one of those tired old geezer baby boomers.

Next it's on to the Evangelical crowd as he throws the GLBTQ vote under the bus.

"It's morning in America."

"There's a Bitch in the woods"

:rofl:

couple that with the charismatic cult of personality thing --he might as well just tell us about the shining city on the hill.

After he tells the old hippies to sit down and shadup!

where the other candidates have talked about the culture wars of the 60's?

I take it that the candidates are fairly similar on their stances on gay rights then.

Got it.

it seemed an efficient way to respond. I notice you won't touch it with a ten foot pole... got it.

It appears to me that you are a man of few words because you actually have no substance to offer.

Answer my question. If you can, then your question might have some worth.

makes my point.

The only one dodging a question of substance is you, my friend.

It's time for you to answer.

is he is using rhetoric to appeal to those who have issues with the culture war unlike the other candidates.

To what question?

:eyes:

with absolutely no context. Further, you're unable to offer any answer regarding the question about actual stance on gay rights. And you're rolling your eyes?

That's funny.

I'm an athiest transsexual dyke baby boomer --I'm the first one to get rounded up

say something profound and uplifting in response. I'm still trying to think of it.

at the re-education center :)

for letting me off the hook. Its yours, sleep tight.

Thanks.

NIce attempt to paint Obama as a cardboard cut-out character of your own imagination.

You're so cool.

a cardboard cut-out character of his own imagination.Gobama?

Have things gotten this bad?

gobama??

Exactly how else should one respond to something as unabashedly spun as the post that begun this thread? The author offered nothing to back up his outlandish claims but more of his own rhetoric.

Am I supposed to waste my time offering up evidence that Obama and Reagan are not alike? LOL!

Please try to think.

I don't think so. Try to comprehend. gobama??

So you're just mad that I didn't let something this ridiculous go by. You want to be able to bash whoever you want, in whatever manner you choose.

Got it.

BHO will soon go.....gobama??

What's silly is the content of the post that started this thread. I am amazed and fearful that even the most ardent anti-Obama critic at DU can't see that.

As for your anger, your posts are filled with it. Step back, and take a deep breath before going off without thinking next time.

Please.

some uncomprehending sole would not understand that it was supposed to be silly,Silly.

Oh yeah, LOL

That's funny. Sorry, oh angry one. The tone of your previous posts leave this excuse in tatters.

You really are playing that game.

Amazing.

Do you comprehend it?

:)

ealier today he said "fuck obama and all that voted for him"....

:thumbsdown:

Now his buddy is trying to tell me that this is satire.

Oh, it's just so darn sad.

Your candidate has managed to make a lot of people really angry. Rather than turning your anger on them for expressing their reaction, why not write to your candidate and suggest that he change his tactics? Insulting me is not going to make a single person decide to support Obama.

LOL! You have no idea who "my" candidate is.

It appears to me that you were probably angry long before Obama came along. This democracy thing seems to be difficult for you. That's ok. It is for a lot of people in this country.

I'm writing to you to ask you to change your tactics. You have posted nothing but your fictional version of an Obama who doesn't exist. I find that to be less than honorable. So, how about it? Will you change your behavior?

he did say "fuck him" as in Obama, but in notifying me of my error he had to add in "fuck you too" so... eh whatever... what a "looser"

aren't the hippies and the bunch of old white guys who wear their sansabelts up around their necks one and the same?


:P

Hey!

as code for welcoming bigots into his campaign, so too did Obama welcome bigotry into his campaign with open arms by hiring an "ex-gay" clown to headline his concert....all in the name of "reaching out".

:eyes:

gobama????

wars may be that 'Republican' is becoming as much a slur as 'liberal' has in other sectors. Strange times we live in.

After the criminal way in which the entire Republican Party has behaved, nobody in their right mind should want to be associated with Republican values or tactics.

Unfortunately, the Democratic front runners seem to be trying to outdo one another in conservatism. That's pathetic. Don't yell at the messengers. Take a look at your candidates.

In our dimension, Obama's a Democrat, by the way. You should visit our much nicer reality some time.

still looking for Daddy's love and acceptance.

that Billy "The Big Dawg."

father.

Raygun ran on strident conservative ideals and policy positions in 1980. He promoted the country's supposed resurgent strength and return to "greatness" in 1984. He was running on his record as an incumbent. Obama's message and rhetoric is about Unity and Progress(whether you agree with the premise or not). Please show us all exactly how Obama's rhetoric matches Reagan. Examples?

Whatever the case, Raygun won in two landslides. Perhaps Obama will enjoy the same fate.

I remember exactly what Reagan said and did and Obama's rhetoric has echoes of the same message.

Can you point to any specific rhetoric that proves your point, or is it just a gut feeling?

I'm not saying that their policies are similar. They're obviously not. What is similar is the rhetoric.

Reagan's approach was to reassure people by appealing to their own biases and gut instincts. Obama's criticism of baby boomers reflects the attitudes of a lot of people (including many who, like Obama himself, are actually part of that demographic). He positions himself with right-wing evangelicals in South Carolina to show that he's more "serious" about religion than Hillary, even when it means tossing gay people under the bus.

Reagan did the same kind of thing. He'd talk in this grandfatherly way and shake his finger and smile and say, "There you go again," appealing to people who thought that everything would be fine if only the welfare queens got cut off from government assistance. Reagan's message was that "trees cause most of the pollution" so we don't have to worry about emissions or anything complicated like that. It was a feel good message but the actual impact was evil, pure evil.

I hate to see Obama using that kind of feel good rhetoric that actually panders to people's fears and biases.

advisers sound desperate and I could almost think they're trying to sabotage him.

I think that Obama's campaign is positioning him to appeal to their idea of a "moderate" - people who are not particularly progressive in their views.

I think that Obama's team is banking on the fact that there are plenty of wussy Americans who fall back to the conservative-center on a lot of social issues. They don't particularly approve of gay people. They don't like being reminded how wrong they were about Vietnam. They prefer griping about "those damned hippies." They're nervous about the "extremes" on abortion - whatever that means. They're not very comfortable with the idea of impeachment. They don't want anyone to do or say anything that might interfere with their enjoyment of the ball game this weekend.

A number of posters on this board who have Obama avatars seem to reflect those views, so I'd say his team is successful in appealing to them.

Except about the drugs, of course.

The people that they seem to be catering to don't have any common ground with moi.

This whole thing blows me away but as someone wrote..it's good all this is coming out now instead of say..the General.

enough of it over the last 7 years.

You hate Obama. I get it. But this irrational thread won't help your cause.

I'm disappointed that the Democrats are competing to prove who is more conservative. Meanwhile the entire country is tipped so far to the right it's falling into the Atlantic Ocean.

trying to be more conservative than Hillary... And for that matter has not taken the Conservative Corp. Cash that Hillary has taken... By far, he is more progressive. Excuse him if he is holding it back, he, like Hillary, is thinking of the General Election and you can not, for some reason, be ultra progressive. Though it is all of our ideas to give health care and equality to all....

imo

I don't think I've heard any candidate for a major office in the U.S. utter a remotely "ultra progressive" comment since, I don't know, maybe 1968? (Probably not even then.)

We have countries all over the world today with female socialist leaders, full marriage rights for gay people, full health care benefits to everyone - and here in the U.S. Obama is pointing to the "culture wars" of the 1960s as our biggest problem???

Come on. This is not even close to progressive rhetoric, much less ultra progressive. Hillary's no better - I'm no Hillary supporter either. It's pathetic how right wing the entire country has become.

we have better candidates to choose from.

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It's almost as if he misreads the political situation entirely. Perhaps he would have been better suited for 2000 or 2004, but at this point Democrats are not really in any sort of mood to hear about how we've helped divide the country or how the other candidates only want to be President of Blue America. It sounds good, but, um, it's completely out of place and ill-timed. This isn't a general election and besides, Democrats are pissed and want some real power back - power to clean up Bush's and the GOP's mess. If the Rethugs are good maybe they can help too, but otherwise we plan on increasing our margins in the congress and winning the presidency so they can no longer be an obstacle to real progress in this country.

This is flamebait for the ages.