Do you really want a new FDR? Then try DJK.

had I known - I prolly would have become a complete vegan
also.

At this point I'm afraid to eat the fish I buy in the
supermarket until I know whether or not it is fresh caught
from America.

Scary what china is putting in our food.  Do you know that
even macaroni and cheese is coming through China.

Very scary stuff.  what do they care they have 1 and half
billion people and wouldnt miss a few hundred thousand. 
Consumer protection is not something they concern themselves
with

to the article by Gore Vidal Kucinich as Mayor saved the town
millions of dollars by preventing an Enron type scam by the
banks. Because he wouldnt sell off the municipal energy to the
bank which already owned 5 other energ companies they
retaliated by lowering the rating on the town.  In the long
run Dennis Kucinich was proved right - and the people
re-elected him to higher offices many times.

Want to try that again?

besides having a tremendous amount of wisdom.

statements with fact and pointed to articles.

If you want to know what Dennis has accomplished and what
bills he has submitted to congress why dont you
look them up.

pity.

I;m going to ask people how to put you on ignore.

I dont need you to put words in my mouth.
You appear to be just plain argumentive and somewhat of an
unpleasant wiseguy adding nothing substantive.

Bye bye

to supply facts backed up by URL's of what you consider
"screw-ups" ?  

instead of unsubstantiated attacks?

of other people wont either.

I love Bill, but I dont trust Hill and have enough of the
centrist/appeal to the right wing of the democrats.

Besides that, I'm pretty sure if she has the nomination she
wont win, even though it looks good now.  The republicans want
her to be the candidate too much.  They must have some really
nasty swiftboating set up for her.

And like I said, a lot  of people are switching to independent
because of their disgust with Pelosi's democrats.  A year to
go, there could be an awful lot of independents voting.

And the democratic party isnt the democratic party anymore.

I dont know what this progressive cr_p is .  I'mm  no
progressive.  I'm a plain ordinary LIBERAL and proud of it.

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there's absolutely no reason that it should take 46 million
dollars to pay for television ads

WE OWN the airwaves and all those political ads should be free
on every station instead of being part of the  problem .

supported the civil rights movement either - products of their
times and afraid to alienate southern white men, it was Bobby
who forced JFK into supporting civil
rights in the 60's. FDR wouldn't allow a ship full of Jewish
refugees to come into the United States either.
Because Bush's grandpappy controlled the oil that FDR needed
for the war and threatened to cut off oil to the US when FDR
demanded he and his buddies stop supplying the Nazis - they
put the screws to FDR. 

I doubt that we will ever know all of the machinations and
history that went on in the oval office.  Do we know exactly
what and who Cheney did with the energy plan in order to rape
Americans now?

FDR induced the depression?

He's given credit for bringing the country out of it and
creating jobs - what was it - the dam project - for a start.
Something in Tennessee also....

Although he did make some mistakes.  By being talked into
having a Federal Reserve and turning all the countries gold
over to it.

You and I seem to have a distictly different memory of
history.

DU.

n/t

Wow.

and I have to give credit where credit is deserved.
I think that's probably the best writing William Pitt has ever
done.  Quite a story !

run both on the Democrat ticket and the Independent
Ticket.

After his impeachment announcement, and the refusal of the DLC
leadership to follow through, Dennis has
much better chances. But he does need better PR and coverage
in the media.

By the way, on Monday, according to Larry King, there is going
to be a press announcement by the Air Force, a former minister
of Canada, several retired military men about the truth of the
sitings and existence of unidentified aircraft normally called
UFO's and the cover up by the CIA.

the republican party are unrecongnizable.

I've been a democratic voter all my life and I dont like what
this party has become.  Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer
blue dogs who are half republican brought in by Rahm
Emanual.

Time to start over with a party that stands for what
democrats used to stand for.  

Yes Kucinich and Sanders seem on the same page, but together
they wouldn't have a winning ticket.

Edwards, Kucinich maybe.

There's a year to go.

And do you listen to Dobbs.

He's been pushing to re-register as an independent since
neither party are responding to we the people.

And a lot of people are doing it.

The independent party could become viable over the next year.

Whiney Lieberman got himslef on democrat ticket and
independent and he got in.

It might be the way for Dennis to go.

I agree.

.

today , and worse to come yet.

China is dumping the dollar, and they have a lot of them. 
Japan has been doing so for awhile,  things are going to get
really bad...so maybe they'll be ready for Dennis.  I dont
know enough about Ron Paul to have an opinion .

if you really want to know who and what Dennis is:

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/4/... 

but need to go higher in the numbers so people can enjpoy what
we found out about 
Dennis Kucinich also.

And Nat, thanks for starting this thread !

isn't it.

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/4/... 

n/t

from Arthur Silber's book

"This is where we've come: two criminal gangs run the
United States from Washington. Neither of them understands the
supreme and sacred value of an individual human life. Neither
understands any matter of principle relating to liberty or
peace. Both of them are intent upon power, no matter how many
innocent people must die, and regardless of how many countries
must be destroyed, including our own."


It's why I'd like to see Dennis and Edwards either make or
join a third or Independent Party.