I don't see anything wrong with Clinton seeking out college students in her audience.

calteacherguy

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:18 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with Clinton seeking out college students in her audience.

I imagine it takes a lot of hard work and many staffers to find them. I understand this dilemma. It's not like she's Barack Obama or something.

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JDPriestly

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:28 PM
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1. Seeking out college students is not the problem

Telling them what questions to ask is the problem.

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SoFlaJet

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:33 PM
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3. She just continues to be an embarassment

and seems content to carry on the imperial presidency that the Neo cons have been trying to enact since Nixon. Just re-write the rules and say "it's OK or sorry we won't do it again" after they get found out. I'm sorry ABH for this dem

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cuke

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:34 PM
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4. "Telling" or "suggesting"?

Do you have any good reason to favor one word over the other in describing what happened?

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rodeodance

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:52 PM
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5. suggesting is what was said in the article on this issue

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mrreowwr_kittty

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:32 PM
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2. Me neither.

IOKIYAHRC. Whatever it is.

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mike_c

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:53 PM
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6. all the good germans are endorsing manufactured audiences this season....

It's the latest patriotic buzz!

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Bucky

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Sat Nov-10-07 12:57 PM
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7. You forgot to call her Hitlery

dumbass

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mike_c

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:00 PM
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8. no, but you didn't....

My comments were directed toward the apologists who excuse that sort of behavior.

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Bucky

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:09 PM
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9. They're not Nazis, either! There's a word for people who argue w/o calling other people Nazis

"grown ups"

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mike_c

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:21 PM
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10. thanks for clearing that up-- another term that I didn't use, but you did....

The "good german syndrome" does not require the involvement of Nazis. It only requires people willing to undercut their own freedom and standards of social behavior to justify the transfer of despotic power to those in charge.

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cuke

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:31 PM
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11. Keep pretending that "good Germans" have nothing to do with Nazis

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mike_c

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:38 PM
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14. denial is more than just a river somewhere in the middle east....

"Part of the barrier to a clear understanding of this is the belief that the United States, by definition, always acts benevolently in the world. But also standing in the way of an honest analysis is the reality that the brutal imperialist U.S. policies, while devised by elites, are being carried out by ordinary Americans. Can we in the United States come to terms with the fact that we are the "good Germans" of our era, routinely allowing pseudo-patriotic loyalties to override moral decision-making? Can we look at ourselves honestly in the mirror when so many of us are implicated in the imperialist system?"

--Robert Jensen
http://www.counterpunch.org/jensen08172005.html

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:36 PM
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13. Are Clinton Supporters In Favor Of Transferring Power To Despots?

The juvenile shenanigans the Clinton campaign got "busted" for have been the staple of political campaigns since time immemorial...

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mike_c

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:43 PM
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15. that is an EXCELLENT question....

The power of the executive branch IS increasingly despotic, especially with regard to foreign policy (so far). That despotism is one of the hallmarks of the Cheney/Bush administration, as are manufactured public events with hand-picked audiences. Sen. Clinton's willingness to engage in that tactic certainly draws disturbing parallels with the current administration's behavior.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-10-07 02:44 PM
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16. Interesting

Because someone in her campaign ill advisedly tried to plant a shill in her audience to ask her a softball question about global warming she's joined the rogue's hall of fame with Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo...

Heck, that doesn't even put her in the same category as Somoza, Batista, and Marcos...

I think you give her too much credit...

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ElizabethDC

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Sat Nov-10-07 01:32 PM
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12. Polls actually show her leading among young voters

A Nov. 1 survey of 400 18-to-29-year-olds showed the New York senator held a surprisingly large lead among young voters who identified themselves as Democrats. Clinton led her nearest competitors, with 54 percent, followed by her Illinois counterpart, with 24 percent, and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, with 8.4 percent.

link: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=2662965D-3048-5C12-00B7299D9C02AE94

And, as a college student myself, I can tell you she has plenty of support among my peers.

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calteacherguy

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Sat Nov-10-07 05:06 PM
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17. That's a national poll. I expect those numbers will drop precipitously

after Iowa rejects her.

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