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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:12 AM Original message |
Edwards threatens to violate Constitution if elected. |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. The Constitution? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Some of us remember. n/t |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
77. Well, I'm glad someone does. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Edwards is going off the deep end making wild unattainable promises.. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. You can't even spell your candidates name, even though it's in your sig. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
53. You do realize we have a low regard for the spelling police.. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. I don't usually care for it either. But spelling your candidate's name is fundamental |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
75. Gosh, that's terrible. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's nice to see that you've broadened your horizons beyond hating Nader. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Edwards would not violate the Constiution. Anyone know how he would |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
52. No, he would not. He is just making an empty promise that is also a good rethorical point.\nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. D: A true leader that puts his money where his mouth is. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. How serious is someone who promises to do something he knows (or should know) is unconstitutional? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Why are you asuming they will break the law? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. He said he would take away the health care of members of Congress |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Again, why do you assume that he will break the law? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Because he said that he would do something which is unconstitutional |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. He didn't say he would do something unconstitutional. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. HE CAN'T TAKE THEIR BENEFITS AWAY. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. We keep ending up in this circle. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Lol only because you're contradicting yourself. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #49 |
66. He can do it. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. What powers would he use to take it away from |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. you post is more Shiller than RW fear ads. good grief! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So, you would have no trouble with Bush threatening |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. They're not equivalent |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. So, violating the Constitution is acceptable so long as |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Who said anything about violating the constitution? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. I have litigated Constutional cases before. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I don't mean as a juror. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That's what Cheney said. n/t |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. lol |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yes, Edwards is threatening to act in an illegal |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Prove it. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. No, there are NO legal ways for the President to do this. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. That doesn't mean that there aren't legal ways to do it. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:45 AM Original message |
Because the President CAN'T do it. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
67. Yes, and he CAN keep his promise. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. As I said, he could just be lying and pandering. n/t |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Yes, or he could be serious about the health care issue. n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
57. I know one. Whenever someone starts their posts of with, "So...." |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. Presidential statutory authority? We haven't had that since 2000. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. It appears he'll continue the Cheney tradition. n/t |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think it is 4. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Congressional pay and benefits are automatically renewed |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I don't know. Could he? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. We have a President, not a King. No, there is no |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Who made you King? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The President doesn't assign benefits. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. And who creates statutes? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Congress. n/t |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. OK, so that disproves your theory that there is no legal way to do this. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. What part of "Edwards can't do it" |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Because Edwards can do it. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. No, he can't do it at all. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I don't know the specifics of the law, but I have no doubt that there is a way he could do this. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. Well, he could just threaten to shut down the government |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I get the point. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. He's promising to do something that he has no legal |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Now we're getting somewhere. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. At this point we are talking past each other. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Sure, but in this case he's threatening Congress. |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. When a candidate uses the phrase "my powers" in a *campaign commercial*... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Well, "my powers" certainly is not a reference |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The power of persuasion is one of his powers. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. The Politics of Parsing, then? n/t |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Also, he's threatening to TAKE IT AWAY from them. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Lets imagine. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. I figure Edwards knows the law better than most. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
81. Precisely! Don't argue against words you put in others' mouths. |
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Ninga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. The Bully Pulpit is a powerful and influential tool. Edwards knows what he is doing, I have |
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MaineDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
27. Good grief! |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
62. It directly echoes the same pedantics which I've heard about Hillary on talk radio... |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
58. The 27th Amendment refers specifically |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. President Edwards would not have statutory |
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nancyharris (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #60 |
73. I'm afraid you are incorrect on that point |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
74. Who do you love more than health care for all? |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
64. I'm sure Edwards is familiar with the Constitution and the law. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
76. Yep - Congress would have to vote on it |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
78. Oh I so cannot wait until the debates. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I hope they use it. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-13-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
80. this thread has to take some sort of prize for containing |
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