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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:21 PM
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Poll question: When do you think it will become obvious that Clinton is going to lose Iowa?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:26 PM
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1. I've tried to avoid the primary as much as possible, but I have to say this
I think that the Clinton campaign "loses" unless they win Iowa really big, because people will wonder about the discrepancy between a close result in Iowa and her big lead in the national polls and supposed invulnerability, real or imagined. So, I think Clinton needs a blowout in order to really "win", anything else will leave voters in other states wondering what happened, IMHO.
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stuartrida Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 01:07 AM
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5. I agree. Everyone has assumed that she is the nominee
and if she isn't strong in Iowa, it will be a huge deal.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 01:13 AM
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7. You are wrong. HRC wins Iowa by 4 to 6 points. This is a big win
since the msm has shown those polls that say it is a close race. I have said that HRC will have the majority of delegates to become the nominee sometime between 5 February and 15 February 2008.

Ben David
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:26 PM
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2. Nope. n/t
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:28 PM
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3. She'll start to lower expectations during the week between Christmas and New Years.
Edited on Wed Nov-14-07 11:31 PM by Stop Cornyn
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 11:55 PM
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4. Never. Unless something shakes loose beforehand, we won't know
who comes out ahead till it's all a done deal.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 01:08 AM
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6. I don't expect her to 'win' Iowa at all
But she'll take NH and NV and sweep the Feb 5 states.
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Phunktified Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 01:16 AM
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8. She'll win
But Obama will probably do well enough to stick around. Edwards will finish 3rd and will drop out the next day. Hillary will win NV easily and Obama will fight hard in NH and SC but I think Hillary will walk away with it.

The GOP on the other hand are destined for a messy primary with Rudy hanging back for the big Feb. contests. It could end up being the death knell for the GOP. The longer they have to bow down to the right the better...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:07 AM
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9. Hillary doesn't need to win Iowa
to still win the nomination. On the other hand, Obama and Edwards can't afford to lose it. Even though Obama may go on if he loses Iowa to fight another day, he would probably still lose the nomination. If Edwards loses in Iowa he's out of the race, his polls numbers are too low and he lacks financing.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:13 AM
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10. As far as I'm concerned, she doesn't need to win Iowa, New Hampshire or any other state.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:27 AM
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11. Hillary doesn't need to win Iowa...
She'll take New Hampshire and most of the other states and will go on to win the nomination.

Bill lost Iowa if I remember correctly.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:34 AM
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13. I think that feeling is mutual. I guess we'll see in 50 days.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:34 AM
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12. You Clinton Triumphalists never give it a rest do ya?
LOL
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:26 AM
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14. Iowa-ins are known to wait up until the last minute in deciding...
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:55 AM
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15. Doesn't this thread belong in the "Polls Based on False Premises" section?
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:30 AM
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16. I have a feeling one of the second tier will move up...Joe??? My lips to God's ear..
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:51 AM
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17. I don't know, but Edwards will be in shock when Hillary or Obama takes Iowa
Afterall, the guy has practically taken up residence there the last 4 years. He's starting to look like an ear of corn.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:20 AM
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18. Hillary is going to run the table, from primary to general election: 50 states in 2008
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