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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:17 AM
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Iraq Withdrawal Bill - like trying to re-tell a bad joke
House passes $50B Iraq withdrawal bill - (AP)

WASHINGTON - House Democrats pushed through a $50 billion bill for the Iraq war Wednesday night that would require President Bush to start bringing troops home in coming weeks with a goal of ending combat by December 2008.

The legislation, passed 218-203, was largely a symbolic jab at Bush, who already has begun reducing force levels...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071115/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq


It's too late to force Bush's hand on this. Any legislation passed now is going to have to be enforced largely by the next president. Spring was the time to force this occupation to an end, and to send a message to Bush that he is not a dictator. Sadly, the attempt was made by folks who don't have strong convictions or don't have the courage to match. So the occupation goes on - until after Bush is gone.

This looks like an attempt by congressional Dems to regain favor with the ones who put them in office. No, thank you. I have seen quite enough.

After having voluntarily funded the occupation once already, and allowing Bush to increase troop levels with impunity, the congress has established itself as a patsy, and a willing partner in this fiasco.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:28 AM
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1. Can't have it both ways.
First, we whine incessantly that Congress needs to do something. Then, we whine when they actually do something.

So, which is it? Should they do nothing?

"Spring was the time to force this occupation to an end"

How, please tell us, was that going to be accomplished? With another "largely symbolic" vote like this one? Any bill like this ends up vetoed, whether it was last spring or now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:58 AM
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2. I am glad to see the DEMS putting this in their faces once more!
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:45 AM
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4. We sure can have it both ways
We whined that congress needs to do something now. Now was last spring when it mattered. But when the funding came up, they caved. So Bush got his money. And more importantly, he got a stamp of tacit approval from the same folks who were elected to office saying they would fight to end the war. They voluntarily funded it with no strings attached.

So six months later, a symbolic vote does not qualify as doing something now. Its nothing more than a ploy.

You ask how was it going to be accomplished in the spring. The same way it could be accomplished now. If Bush vetoes the bill, don't give him another one. Same thing Reid suggested earlier this week. Its only common sense. My 5 year old son could have figured that out.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:14 AM
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3. He is NOT reducing force levels--that is absolute bullshit. A unit is
going home that was already supposed to go home, and they won't have a direct replacement. The media is spreading outright lies now.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 09:50 AM
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5. Yep-nt
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