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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:02 AM
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"Obama In Orbit" is a fantastic column in today's New York Times
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:11 AM by zulchzulu
I was reading this article this morning and it tells what I've told people who wondered why I supported Barack Obama (and particularly people from other countries) who I encountered while doing my efforts at the Obama table at the Farmers Market in Madison, WI over the months.

This column nails it!

November 15, 2007
Op-Ed Columnist
Obama in Orbit

By ROGER COHEN
NEW YORK

Little that is certain can be said about the U.S. election a year from now, but one certainty is this: about 6.3 billion people will not be voting even if they will be affected by the outcome.

That’s the approximate world population outside the United States. If nothing else, President Bush has reminded them that it’s hard to get out of the way of U.S. power. The wielding of it, as in Iraq, has whirlwind effects. The withholding of it, as on the environment, has a huge impact.

No wonder the view is increasingly heard that everyone merits a ballot on Nov. 4, 2008.

(snip)

Renewal is about policy; it’s also about symbolism. Which brings us to Barack Hussein Obama, the Democratic candidate with a Kenyan father, a Kansan mother, an Indonesian stepfather, a childhood in Hawaii and Indonesia and impressionable experience of the Muslim world.

If the globe can’t vote next November, it can find itself in Obama. Troubled by the violent chasm between the West and the Islamic world? Obama seems to bridge it. Disturbed by the gulf between rich and poor that globalization spurs? Obama, the African-American, gets it: the South Side of Chicago is the South Side of the world.

Michael Ignatieff, the deputy leader of Canada’s opposition Liberal Party, said: “Outsiders know it’s your choice. Still, they are following this election with passionate interest. And it’s clear Barack Obama would be the first globalized American leader, the first leader in whom internationalism would not be a credo, it would be in his veins.”

To the south, in Mexico, resentment of the Bush administration has less to do with American unilateralism and more with stalled immigration policy and the building of a border fence. But the thirst for change is the same.

“Mexicans want evidence that things are shifting, which means the Democrats, and of course a woman like Hillary Clinton, or a black like Obama, would signal a huge cultural change,” said Jorge Castañeda, a former foreign minister.

“My sense is the symbolism in Mexico of a dark-skinned American president would be enormous. We’ve got female leaders now in Latin America — in Chile, in Argentina. But the idea of a U.S. leader who looks the way the world looks as seen from Mexico is revolutionary.”

(snip)

I see nobody else who would represent such a Kennedy-like restorative charge at a time when America often seems out of sync with the world.

Sir Jeremy Greenstock, the former British ambassador to the United Nations, told me that the United States remained the most important nation, but “the American label feels tied to something anachronistic. America has not been working out where the world is going, nor creating the appropriate relationships for that world.”

Obama, in many ways, is where the world is going. He embodies interconnectedness where the Bush administration has projected separateness.

(snip)

The world isn’t voting. America is. But the candidate who most mirrors the 21st-century world seems clear enough.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/opinion/15cohen.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print


Pass it on. Gobama!

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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:07 AM
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1. Yup--he'd be good not just for the country, but for the rest of the world.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:07 AM by wienerdoggie
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:08 AM
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2. You may want to edit this to avoid copyright issues. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:15 AM
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3. The first globalized American leader...and not a moment too soon
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:15 AM
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4. It's a beautiful column!
Gobama!
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BlueButGlad2 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:36 AM
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5. I am DISAPPOINTED IN OBAMA
I was supporting Obama. Then came the pandering. Tax cuts for the middle class in a time of large deficits. Paid family leave - it's a program that goes too far. I can't back it. Not canning that performer who thinks gays can change. Surely he would not have allowed a performer who had misconceptions about race to go on.

Don't be fooled by Obama.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:38 AM
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6. Welcome to DU!
Immerse yourself in the issues. Good luck.


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BlueButGlad2 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:47 AM
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12. thanks
Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate it
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:40 AM
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7. I'm sorry to hear that. Welcome to DU anyway...
Enjoy your stay.
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BlueButGlad2 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:49 AM
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13. thanks
thanks for the welcome. I actually wanted to like Obama. I thought he would be a little more of a straight shooter. I understand how a straight shooter can end up shooting himself in the foot (killing his chances with honesty), so Obama is now more of a typical politician.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:42 AM
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8. You oppose him because he supports paid family leave? n/t
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BlueButGlad2 Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:53 AM
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14. among other reasons
yes, anomongst other reasons. Maybe I am selfish because I am single, though I support govnerment supported healthcare and disablity assistance etc. But esp. when a couple chooses to have kids, I resent the rest of us giving this couple taxpayer money (or forceing a company to pay them) to support the choice they made. We already pay quite a bit to help out families (education being the biggest such expense), but me paying someone to stay home from work because they choose to have kids takes things too far I think.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:42 AM
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9. NY Times magazine cover article from two weeks ago made parallel point
It was a long feature piece (I was out of town at the time, so it's probably already been discussed here) that focused on Obama and foreign policy. The "presence to the world" thing was remarked on as something the Obama campaign itself has promoted, but the article gave deeper insight into the foreign-policy implications. It claimed that on the liberal side, there are about 20 people who do foreign-policy full time ... and most of them are supporting Obama. The reasons basically had to do with two things: (1) he presents the best "soft power" profile and (2) he listens to many different opinions and formulates thoughtful, highly nuanced positions. It was an interesting read ... if anyone needs me to find a link, I'll be glad to take the time to search it down. Otherwise, I won't bother, since people seem so rarely to ever open a link and actually read the piece.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:15 AM
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10. Thanks for pointing that out. Here's the link
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:48 PM
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16. Thanks for your input ~ nt
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 03:10 PM by goclark
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:47 AM
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11. the world will not be amused by americans voting and thereby doing a "fool me twice" bit ...
in my travels abroad, TO THIS VERY DAY, people are totally dismayed at how anybody could have voted for chimpco in 2004 ...

GOBAMA08 ... the world awaits your unifying audacity of hope!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 12:58 PM
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15. A friend of mine just got back from Germany...
...and fortunately he was with someone who was fluent in German who could translate the many times they were walking around and someone would utter in German "you f*&(ing American war mongers..." etc. as they went about their business. This guy voted for Nader and loathes Bush, but it would have come on deaf ears to tell that to many that just hate Americans so much due to the Boy Pretzel King...

It will be a big page to turn....but I'm hopeful we'll start the century off correctly... a little late, but at least we have this chance.


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:50 PM
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17. Amen!
:thumbsup:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:54 PM
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18. K & R
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:08 PM
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19. "You live by inevitability and die by inevitability." when he loses
Iowa, I predict he'll fly to New Hamster and say, "A new day is upon us..."


Wanted to see how Michelle Obama's lil talk with a reporter is playing in republican territory: Just one of hundreds that basically say the same thing:
Posted by: Jean | November 13, 2007 12:06 PM

"As a conservative Republican, I say that Obama's wife is a godsend. I hope she continues to give interviews and continues to make her race baiting comments. You must understand, in a democratic primary election her racist comments won't hurt her husband that much because most white people who vote democratic are dimwitted, guilt ridden people. You see, white democrats and white republicans, while the same race, are totally opposite thinking people. While white democrats will let Michelle Obama's racist comments slide, white republicans will make her husband pay for those comments. So if by some miracle Obama wins the democratic nomination, I guarantee these race baiting comments by Mrs. Obama will be widely publicized by republicans. And when they are publicized, trust me, white America will say we don't need a female Jesse Jackson living in the white house. Face it all you democrats, you will get your azzes kicked again next year, just like you have for most of the last forty years".



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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:13 PM
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20. So should I be happy or unhappy
that Republicans do not like Michelle Obama?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:52 PM
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21. Is this a half-assed attempt at hijacking the thread topic?
BTW, where was that crap you posted from? Gee, conservative Republican women don't like Michelle Obama... now that's a friggin' surprise.

:crazy:

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:29 PM
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22. K&R!
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