Why is Kucinich ahead in the fund drive?

The truth is that most people would like to vote for him. Many here at DU consider him to be good on many fronts. But for whatever reason people do not want to vote for him to make him the candidate of choice.

He is the only candidate that stands by his principles. He does not bend because it is politically convenient. He does not make diplomatic statements to pander to both sides. He is true progressive.

But we have reasons to not vote for him like: He is too short to a president. He is too left wing, we need someone more centrist. He is a vegan, what message is that sending to the world that imports meat from the USA. Really, these are all republican talking points. The man the republicans fear the most is Kucinich.

It is time to vote in the irregular. After George Bush do you not think it is time to vote for someone like Kucinich. We need change in the White House. I really do not believe any of the other candidates have the guts to make that happen.

Coorected spelling of name.

Haven't even considered voting for anyone else.

because there is no risk in voting for him in the fund drive... While most here would agree with everything you say, it only works with a fair playing field, something we clearly do not have. The MSM is like a schoolyard full of megabullies just waiting to ostracize anyone who is not remotely "conformist." On some level, all of us know that Kucinich would be eaten alive and the memories of Dukakis in that tank are just so damned fresh. I am not proud that we don't have 10 million liberal/progressives willing to do everything necessary to fight back, but the truth is that we don't. Damned depressing, isn't it?

Read up on his several decades of service-he is one tough sonofabitch.

and the grassroots efforts are being ignored until he takes a few states and places well in others.

So watch all the attacks on him just increase his support...

but I fear that it will not... :shrug:

...which is the only 'electability' target that should truly concern us.

I think he does rather well. McCain or Ghouliana, Romney or Thompson, all are used to how the game is currently played (i.e. Milquetoast wussy Dems like the front-runners and the Leadership apologizing every three minutes to the Reeps) and wouldn't know how to handle a West Side street fighter like Kooch.

Yes, the Right Wing Scream Machine will go after Dennis. That will happen with ANY DEM. I think DK could win the WH if he had a decent shot at the Dem Nom.

or truth... When I see MSM,especially the pundits mention Kucinich, they fairly salivate with sadistic joy. I have nothing but tremendous respect for Dennis, but the only thing containing the MSM (to any degree) on Hillary Clinton or Barak Obabama is fear that they will be called out for their sexism and racism. Kucinich would be fair game for the testosterone-driven "opinion-makers." The truth is that the few areas where they can get by with focusing their obnoxious bullying is with stature (specifically in men) and obesity (especially in women). Their stupidity re: the UFO question is just the opening salvo. I can already hear the male stud-worshipping Chris Matthews belittling Kucinich re: his plans for a Department of Peace. Once this bullying gets started, even more rational journalists join in. Do you not remember the Gore invented the internet hysteria, or his sighing or earth tone clothing? I dare say that is all most Americans remember from that election--certainly not the moronic performance of Bush* that resulted in a free pass.

...even if they have to make shit up. I can't see there being a Dem candidate who will get any better treatment from the RWSM.

On the manly meme: DK has a hot wife who is about 1/3 of his age. I don't think that dog will hunt, somehow. :)

He is what he is. Hard to imagine, in politics.

stands for.

Could you imagine any other candidate who admitted they saw a UFO at the debate?

They would have sqirmed and attempted to put it into a good light or equivacated about it. But Dennis just flat out answered the question straight up, and that was the end of it.

There was no where else for Timmy to go with it.

Th Al Gore who ran in 2000 isn't the Al Gore of today. the Al Gore of today trusts his own instincts as tells it as he sees it. The Al Gore of 2000 was consultanted to death. That's exactly why Americans were unsure who he was.

The reason bush got a free pass was that bush knows where he stands also. Agree, or disagree, at least he knows who he is and what he believes, even if it changes. He at least appears to actually belive it at the time he says it.

... a ride in Dennis' flying saucer.
:tinfoilhat:

are as mainstream as mainstream can be.

Go check out the Pew Research website and tell me where his issues and solutions are out of step with the mainstream of American thought and opinion.

Dukakis was no Kucinich ;-)

...in many more areas than they would like to admit.

DUers also say: "Gore/Kerry Lost", when the truth is that both elections were stolen.

Same thing here. We are told, over and over, that DK is "unelectable" and people swallow it without really giving it critical analysis. Such is life in our ADD nation.

Kerry ran a terrible campaign, didn't challenge accusations, didn't figure out how to simplify dense paragraphs, and didn't fight for disenfranchised voters in Ohio or elsewhere.

Can you picture Wes Clark putting up with the Swiftboaters while planning his own '08 bid on the side?

See what I mean? People don't think any more, they just regurgitate what the MSM force-feeds them.

He ran such an inept campaign that it was close enough for Chimpy to steal it. Kerry should've trounced the Chimpenfurher well beyond their ability to steal it.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I hate John Kerry's double-crossing, sell-out, two-faced, cut-and-run wussy little guts. He must have spent his fire in Southeast Asia, because after all his horseshit 'count every vote' rhetoric during the 2004 campaign, he collapsed like a Kleenex in a hurricane on Election Night. Jesus Christ on a fuckin' pogo stick, not even 24 hours. What a lying fake sellout scumbag motherfucker.

I take it personally, because I was trying to reach someone to tell them; hold on, you've been robbed, here's the proof. I was not the only one. Do you know what the Ketchup Whore did? Hell, his people wouldn't even answer the goddamned phone. Kerry decided to concede WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO FIND EVIDENCE. HE FUCKING CAVED IN, BENT OVER, SPREAD HIS ASS CHEEKS AND TOLD DUBYA TO DIVE RIGHT IN. FUCK JOHN KERRY WITH GUILIANI'S PLUNGER!!!!!!!!!!!!

(There, I feel better now. I just wish I could tell him in person. Yeah, right.)

Be that as it may, the man who gets the most votes wins. Whether I like him or not, whether he should have done this or that, Kerry won. He got the most votes, even if Blackwell et.al. tried to hide it.

William Jefferson Clinton was our last legitimately elected president. It's math. Emotions should play no part in this.

If there is a human being on this planet who hates Kerry more than me, I'll be very surprised. But he won that election, no matter how I feel. Math rules and emotions drool, baby.

America has not had an elected President in this millennium. Deal with that reality. Change it. Denial will do nothing but enable more thefts.

you have as much a shot of winning as he does.

Plus, at least you agree with yourself on 100% of the issues.

In a general election I can easily see him winning in a landslide, if he ever got fair press. Is it the media that scares you?

You see, when many, many people cast a ballot for a candidate, "unelectable" or not, that candidate will - imagine! - get elected.

Seriously, you should try it. If you really think Obama's going to win anyway, what's it hurt to throw a ballot for Kucinich in the primaries?

On the contrary.

but a vote for Kucinich is a vote for myself, as I see it. Dennis comes closest (by far) to representing what I believe in. Not voting for Dennis would be a vote against myself!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

Well, it's actually NOT funny ~ maybe it's time for all of us to remember that "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" (as the saying goes).

and Im proud to say I will be voting for him again in 2008 - hopefully more than once! (Primaries and Generals)

I voted for him in 2004, assuming elections are held will do so again, and will write his correctly spelled name in if necessary.

THAT'S WHY I WILL NOT DONATE ONE THIN PENNY IN THIS STUPID ASS FUN RUN. I want my money to go to her or Edwards in THEIR NAME. Not some suck up bunch of slime posters. I think this is the worst show of respect to any candidate I have ever seen.

No body is interested in pushing Kuchnich back. They know damn well he isn't even going to come close to even winning any state. So they leave him alone. And they know damn well Obama is not going to win any state. Why would you vote for two loosers.

you sure weigh in on this topic a lot.

Somehow you've grinched your way into believing that Kucinich's HUGE lead over Clinton is the result of people voting against Clinton rather than people voting FOR Kucinich. Whatever.

Hell, I gave Clinton a huge boost earlier this week, from -200 steps to 1600+ steps. Kucinich was in the 200s at the time as the result of another powerup IIRC. Yes, people are voting against Clinton-- she has not had a single moment of net positive movement during this entire exercise. But more important, people are voting overwhelmingly FOR Kucinich (and Gore).

uguu

But there's an inverse relationship between many Democrat's popularity here and their popularity among rank and file Democrats...

No one else even comes close.

Where the hell did you come up with that??
Hilarious.

If you wonder why Kucinich leads the polls on DU but has very few people contributing to his campaign, and is set to do pretty poorly in the primaries... DU doesn't come close to representing your average Democrats, imo.