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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:55 PM
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Do you think if a candidate offered a pardon to any lawmaker
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 05:56 PM by rzemanfl
who was caught doing something wrong by *'s illegal wiretapping it might help the Dems grow a pair?

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:57 PM
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1. It would be a deathknell to that candidate's campaign
On general principle, I would utterly and absolutely reject any Democratic candidate who made such a promise, even if it was made after the National Convention picked a nominee.

On the other hand, if a Republicker candidate made such a promise.... You might be right.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:48 PM
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6. This was a stupid post, what I am trying to get at is that I think
* has something on many Dems, otherwise why do they cave all the time?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:58 PM
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2. WHAT? Not sure what you are saying there. Candidates can't provide pardons.
You have to win the race.

Would you throw your eggs in, say, the Clinton, Obama or Edwards basket if you were a crook, "HOPING" that the person you have hooked up with will win and fulfill their promise?

And using a pardon as leverage, trading it, in actual fact, would probably insure that pardons suddenly become unconstitutional or very seriously limited in the future.

I don't understand your logic, at all.

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:41 PM
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3. What I am trying to get at is that I think BushCo has something on
many of the Dems, probably obtained illegally via wiretap, otherwise why the hell do they cave all the time?

Of course, I meant "if elected."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:48 PM
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5. That would be worse for the GOP than the Dems.
The Dems could be planning murder on those taps, and no one would care.

Wiretapping is just not 'on.' Americans have a problem with it.

Blackmail like that can be flipped and used to crucify a blackmailer.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:47 PM
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4. In the times before Bushco, someone caught doing something
wrong through an illegal action by law enforcement was not called "a crook," they were called acquitted.
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