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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:21 PM
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On Edit: "People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead,"
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 11:50 PM by Perky
I Orignally posted

"Sorry Hillary... it is not your gender.... it affords you no protection whatsoever. And yes you are being attacked becauce you are ahead..... are you so naive as to think that offers you protection? Pulling the gender card is a big mistake. complaining you are being attacked makes you look like a sissy. Bluntly: Grow up or get out of the way."

That was based on the lead from the AP story. I nderstand the context better now... but were I a Hillary fan I would be pretty pissed at the lead of this article

By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer



LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at their records.

"People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead," Clinton said, striving to protect her standing as front-runner in an increasingly competitive nominating campaign.

"What the American people are looking for right now is straight answers to tough questions, and that is not what we have seen from Senator Clinton on a host of issues," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a debate seven weeks before the first contest of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"There's nothing personal about this," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who joined Obama in bluntly accusing Clinton of forever switching positions on Social Security, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and other issues, turning aside the suggestion that she was seeking to hide her positions. Long an advocate of universal health care, she said Obama's current proposal leaves millions uncovered and that Edwards did not support health care for all when he first ran for president in 2004.


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM
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1. Clinton was awesome in that answer
And then when Brown attempted to ask it again (as was stated on another thread) she paused and said, "Campbell" it was priceless. She stole the show tonight.

If you don't believe that the men have been playing the gender card for centuries, you have your head in the sand.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:26 PM
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10. It was an excellent response
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:09 AM
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23. She took it straight from tweety.
I wanna barf.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM
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2. Huh?
Your post makes no sense.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:25 PM
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8. You're scratching your head too?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM
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3. I'll bet you think that was a logical sensible argument.
However, you were arguing against your own assumptions and not what she said.

Try to watch that.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM
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4. Also, according to me...
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 11:23 PM by sakabatou
your policies suck.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:23 PM
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5. That was a GREAT answer. And when she said "Campbell." - priceless.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:23 PM
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6. it was a response to a question
had she not answered it, would you be attacking her for not answering the question? :eyes:
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:24 PM
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7. I thought it was a super answer
And the female reporter who asked the question about the good ol' boys club was an idiot!
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:26 PM
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9. So where did she play the gender card exactly?
You quote her saying "they are not attacking me because of my gender", and then you claim she's playing the gender card? Help me out here...
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:28 PM
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12. Is she not saying she is afforded protection because of her gender?


Here is how AP is reporting it

By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer



LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at their records.

"People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead," Clinton said, striving to protect her standing as front-runner in an increasingly competitive nominating campaign.

"What the American people are looking for right now is straight answers to tough questions, and that is not what we have seen from Senator Clinton on a host of issues," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a debate seven weeks before the first contest of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"There's nothing personal about this," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who joined Obama in bluntly accusing Clinton of forever switching positions on Social Security, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and other issues, turning aside the suggestion that she was seeking to hide her positions. Long an advocate of universal health care, she said Obama's current proposal leaves millions uncovered and that Edwards did not support health care for all when he first ran for president in 2004.

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:29 PM
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14. In a word -- No.
:crazy:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:31 PM
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16. She was responding to a question
The question was something like "your opponents have accused you of saying that you're being attacked because of your gender. What is your response to this?"

Then she responded, with that quote: "People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead" - In other words, it has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with her poll numbers. I really don't see how you can take that quote, in any context, to mean that she was implying her gender had anything to do with it.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:32 PM
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17. Ahhh.... Ok ok...AP does not give it that context


Here is how AP is reporting it

By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer



LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at their records.

"People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead," Clinton said, striving to protect her standing as front-runner in an increasingly competitive nominating campaign.

"What the American people are looking for right now is straight answers to tough questions, and that is not what we have seen from Senator Clinton on a host of issues," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a debate seven weeks before the first contest of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"There's nothing personal about this," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who joined Obama in bluntly accusing Clinton of forever switching positions on Social Security, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and other issues, turning aside the suggestion that she was seeking to hide her positions. Long an advocate of universal health care, she said Obama's current proposal leaves millions uncovered and that Edwards did not support health care for all when he first ran for president in 2004.

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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:28 PM
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11. Clinton was great. She's not the one who needs to "get out of the way".
The answer to that is in YOUR mirror.:hi:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:28 PM
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13. And that was the one liner of the night thats going to be plastered all over the news.
And it's going to be all positive for her.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:29 PM
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15. Ok so here is how AP reported it and thus my comment
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 11:31 PM by Perky

I did not see the debate..... but Here is how AP is reporting it

By BETH FOUHY
Associated Press Writer



LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Under pressure in a feisty debate, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton accused her closest rivals Thursday night of slinging mud "right out of the Republican playbook" and leveled her sharpest criticism of the campaign at their records.

"People are not attacking me because I'm a woman, they're attacking me because I'm ahead," Clinton said, striving to protect her standing as front-runner in an increasingly competitive nominating campaign.

"What the American people are looking for right now is straight answers to tough questions, and that is not what we have seen from Senator Clinton on a host of issues," said Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the opening moments of a debate seven weeks before the first contest of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

"There's nothing personal about this," said former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who joined Obama in bluntly accusing Clinton of forever switching positions on Social Security, driver's licenses for illegal immigrants and other issues, turning aside the suggestion that she was seeking to hide her positions. Long an advocate of universal health care, she said Obama's current proposal leaves millions uncovered and that Edwards did not support health care for all when he first ran for president in 2004.

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:39 PM
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18. I am no HIllary fan but AP really blew the lead
It sounds like she is whining. That may well have not been the case but that is the way it appears in the AP lead.

If I was a Hillary fan I would be pissed about the lack of context.

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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:42 PM
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20. She wasn't whining
The question she was asked was inane. This was actually a great answer.

(And I'm not a Hillary person.)
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:41 PM
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19. She hit the bulls-eye.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 11:43 PM by durrrty libby
You missed the mark.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:54 AM
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21. "forever switching positions" is exactly what this quote of hers demonstrates
and i'm tired of it.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:41 AM
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24. What position did she switch?
Care to enlighten us?
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:59 AM
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22. not a Clinton supporter...
...but she nailed that answer. In fact, it was kinda inspirational.
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