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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:55 PM
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Is the Novak "story" related to this?
So I was down in DC this past weekend and happened to run into a well-connected media person, who told me flatly, unequivocally that “everyone knows” The LA Times was sitting on a story, all wrapped up and ready to go about what is a potentially devastating sexual scandal involving a leading Presidential candidate. “Everyone knows” meaning everyone in the DC mainstream media political reporting world. “Sitting on it” because the paper couldn’t decide the complex ethics of whether and when to run it. The way I heard it they’d had it for a while but don’t know what to do. The person who told me )not an LAT person) knows I write and didn’t say “don’t write about this”.

If it’s true, I don’t envy the LAT. I respect their hesitation, their dilemma, deciding to run or not to run it raises a lot of difficult journalism ethics questions and they’re likely to be attacked, when it comes out—the story or their suppression of the story—whatever they do.


I’ve been sensing hints that something’s going on, something’s going unspoken in certain insider coverage of the campaign (and by the way this rumor the LA Times is supposedly sitting on is one I never heard in this specific form before. By the way, t’s not the Edwards rumor, it’s something else.

And when my source said “everyone in Washington”, knows about it he means everyone in the elite Mainstream media, not just the LA Times, but everyone regularly writing about the Presdidential campaign knows about it and doesn’t know what to do with it. And I must admit it really is was juicy if true. But I don’t know if it’s true and I can’t decide if I think it’s relevant. But the fact that “everyone” in the elite media knew about it and was keeping silent about it, is, itself, news. But you can’t report the “news” without reporting the thing itself. Troubling!


More at:
http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/ronrosenbaum/2007/10/29/shocking_inside_dc_scandal_rum.php
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:57 PM
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1. The media did a good job of keeping the lid on Bush's history
drugs / sex / criminal history / abortions / vietnam evasion.


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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:58 PM
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2. I'm just saying that this has been around for a while.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM
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6. I have not heard of it...maybe they are waiting for the general election
Thompson / Guliani also have pasts...and god knows what Bill Clinton has been doing the past few years.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:20 PM
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17. Agreed.
The first thing that popped into my mind when I read the OP was Bush's sordid past. And CorpMedia refused to divulge his "youthful discretions."

So why would they want to expose a current Presidential aspirant? Wouldn't happen to be a Democrat, by chance?

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:58 PM
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3. Honestly, if Obama has had an affair (or two, or several)
I really could NOT care less. It would be bad for poor Michelle but it doesn't effect my life one iota.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM
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4. more slime without attribution - spreading toxic waste again nt
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM
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5. if this is true
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 01:00 PM by ccpup
this sounds more like something "everyone knows" and not just something those "Clinton agents", in the words of the oh so trustworthy, unbiased Novak, would be hiding.

No better way to try and negate Clinton's "resurgence" post-debate and make her look untrustworthy than to try and ascribe to her "agents" a (potentially true, but maybe not) story that "everyone" knows about. I'm just disappointed to see Obama allegedly playing along re: his recent "come clean" statement to Clinton.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 12:59 PM
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7. Sheesh
You're friggin busting man-come on out and tell us-you know you want to-we know you want to-who we talking about here? Anybody know?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:02 PM
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8. I think this whole Novak story is bullshit
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 01:02 PM by Lirwin2
It makes Hillary look evil and plotting, and it makes Obama look like he has some terrible horrible dark secret.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:07 PM
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11. Common sense should tell people that
Clinton probably would be the last candidate in the field to encourage reporting on sexual misconduct.She's been there/done that and I seriously doubt she would throw it at someone else. More likely this was designed to open old wounds and get people talking about the sexual peccadillo's of candidates,guess where that leads in regards to Clinton. This is GOP propaganda,and here we sit feeding it.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:06 PM
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9. What's NEW about this ????????????????????????????
This information - that you call it -- has been posted at several of the other blog sites for over four months. If it was so so devastating to ANY of the candidates it would surly have leaked by now.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:07 PM
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10. I remember posting at time the complex item may involve the wives. n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:09 PM
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12. i find it hard to imagine a newspaper -- or anyone else in the ''elite media''
sitting on a sex story.

i mean that's the bread and butter of american news today.

and didn't DU hash all this nameless sources thing before with the iraq war, valerie plame, terrorist rumblings, etc?

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:15 PM
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14. i could
you reveal it now, it gets squashed rather quickly.

You reveal it in January, before the first primary, then you've got something.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:21 PM
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18. yeah -- i don't believe it --
you don't know who else might have the story -- in fact -- this says it's wide spread.

the la times has no real control -- no one does -- so if it's there to come -- it would have.

well then the point of holding it is what then?

bullshit.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:13 PM
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13. I wouldn't trust Novakula
to clean my bathroom, let alone be a commentator. I'm surprised that he's keeping quiet. After all, we know that he loves to leak little tidbits of information fed to him by his Repuke masters. Just ask Valerie Plame Wilson. :nuke:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:17 PM
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15. The L A Times Story Has Been Debunked By The Editor
DSB
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:21 PM
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19. Do you have a link to that. It would be good to read...otherwise this
stuff just keeps floating around.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:17 PM
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16. If everybody knows
Drudge or some other right wing outlet would cover it as a rumor, unless its about a Republican.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:26 PM
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20. it took me 45 seconds to find it.. pathetic...but many trolls here will be very happy
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 01:27 PM by sam sarrha
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:31 PM
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21. Hope not. Still, at this point I'd still bet it was FUD/bluffing.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:41 PM
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22. This story has nothing to do with Obama, and has been reported
elsewhere.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:25 PM
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23. devastating sexual scandal involving a Presidential candidate?
Kucinich got probed?
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:34 PM
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25. OMG ROFLAO n/t
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:33 PM
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24. well don't keep all of us in the dark tell everyone hear what the FUCK is it you have
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:03 PM
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26. My top candidate would have to be Rudy. Can anyone have done
more in the so-called family values destruction? However, I personally am sick of sex scandals, unless, that is, Mitch McConnell turns out to be gay...we Kentuckians deserve a break from good old manipulator Mitch. Or in Vitter's case a little jail time might just fit the bill.
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