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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:20 PM
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Just one reason any Democrat is better than Huckabee
Huckabee: Abortion not states' call

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer 15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee rejects letting states decide whether to allow abortions, claiming the right to life is a moral issue not subject to multiple interpretations.

"It's the logic of the Civil War," Huckabee said Sunday, comparing abortion rights to slavery. "If morality is the point here, and if it's right or wrong, not just a political question, then you can't have 50 different versions of what's right and what's wrong."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071118/ap_po/huckabee


Something tells me he doesn't want a federal decision to legalize it.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:29 PM
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1. I at least appreciate his honesty
Some many of these other "pro-life" conservatives innocently claim that they just want abortion to be a state issue, where those supposedly democratic state legislatures can decide what to do about abortion, in accordance with the wishes and the values of the people who live in those states.

Well, guess what? State legislatures in New England, New York, the West Coast, Illinois and perhaps some of the libertarian Mountain West states, would decide to keep abortion legal, in accordance with the wishes and values of the people who live in those states. Would that be acceptable to the so-called "pro-life" activists? They may say that it would be, but that is a lie. At least Huckabee tells the truth about the true motives of the "pro-life" crowd.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:32 PM
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2. Huckabee is right on this one
The states' rights issue here is a way for politicians to dodge this issue. Either abortion is okay, in which case it should be up to the states to protect and regulate it, or its murder, and it should be banned nationwide.

We don't want abortion to be legal in PA but 1st degree murder in AL and MS.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:43 PM
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4. You are aware which way that would fall? nt
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:20 PM
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9. No, but what difference does that make?-nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:21 PM
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10. It makes all the difference!
Huckabee is talking about a federal ban on abortions. That's where this would end up.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:25 PM
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15. I get that part
I don't agree with him on a federal ban, obviously. But he's right about the political/legal issue.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:38 PM
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16. Do you think the federal government can determine whether or not abortion is murder?
That's really what would be required. If they decide it is, then as Huckabee wants, the result would be a federal ban.

For any women anywhere to be able to choose for themselves, the federal government would have to decide that it is not murder.

The latter is not about to happen. That's why they want to make this a binary issue.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:37 PM
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3. Have no fear, ladies! Crazy Hucky is coming to guard your wombs!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:50 PM
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5. Yup, reproductive freedom is just like slavery!
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 04:50 PM by Sparkly
Crazy Hucky to the rescue! :crazy:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:05 PM
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8. Funny analogy he uses, because forcing women to carry and bear unwanted
children IS a form of slavery. Oh, the irony.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:54 PM
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6. If we look at this from the point of view of the issues, rather than the irrelevant "D" and "R"
Edited on Sun Nov-18-07 04:55 PM by IndianaGreen
we will find that while all those running under GOP banner are bad, some of those running under the Democratic banner support a candy coated version of the same undemocratic and imperialists policies that Bush is pursuing.

Human rights are only trumped by state security in dictatorships!
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:56 PM
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7. It might be worthwhile to discuss those issues one by one
Certainly more productive than all the horserace hysteria.

In any case, I picked just one issue each for just three GOP candidates - and to me, any of them are sufficient reason to vote for any Democrat over them.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:24 PM
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11. not to mention he's been brought up on corruption charges many times in Arkansas
I especially love his "Wedding Registry" he and his wife had going when he left the gov's mansion. They had been married 30 yrs. by then. He says his friends just wanted to bestow gifts on them for their new abode.

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:38 PM
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12. he might also want to explain why Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden are wandering the streets too
The two killers at Jonesboro in 1997.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:05 PM
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14. Didn't he write a book about Jonesboro while in office? And then profited from the sales?
And then looked like a greedy exploiter by not sharing the proceeds with the victims' families or donating them to charity? Seem to remember reading about that somewheres.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:50 PM
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13. this bothers me less than his advocasy of "Fair-Tax"
I like Huckabee alot, but I just can't go for any more religious insanity or anyone advocating the un-Fair Tax.
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