If Democrats don't make an impeachment attempt before Bush is gone, how upset will you be?

If the rest of our Party doesn't join in with Kucinich to TRY to see that Bush and Cheney are held accountable for their crimes before they're out of office and off the hook, it will be so hard for me to forgive them for it, although I will always be grateful to Kucinich for trying.

Long live one of the ONLY Democrats with any guts and sense of conviction, Dennis Kucinich. Let's hope that future generations of Democrats are just like him, only with at least one of them a little bit taller so that the next "Kucinich" can get elected President in a country where being tall is more important than being right.

Even the French would be embarrased at how easy they roll over.

Either the DNC or the Senate or the House campaign committees. Period.

And it's really close to ever.

I'll give my money to people who will stand up for the Constitution, beginning with Dennis Kucinich!

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Choose Peace!

and the country is to be the same as a republican. Dennis is a patriot.

even if only to save our Treasury --- !!!


Shouldn't bankrupting the Treasury be considered treason???


Another year of this --- ???


REALLY--- ????

The Republicans will never turn on Bush, no matter what charges were brought and how good the proof is.

Knowing that no impeachment will be successful in this partisan climate, what do we win by pursuing impeachment at a goal?

Will it help elect demcrats in 2008?

Will it improve our shattering economy?

Will it bring the nation together?

I see all those answers as a resounding NO.

But, I'm interested, what would Democrats, the US, and the progressive left get from an attempted impeachment?

WTF? This nation has been so divided by fucking Bush and Cheney that it will take decades, IF EVER, to come together. An impeachment attempt is necessary just to show the goddamn neocons that we will never sit there idly and take their shit again without holding the criminals accountable. For all you know, the country would probably unite behind us if we showed the guts to impeach. BTW, it only takes a one vote majority to impeach, so don't give me that nonsense about the Republicans not supporting it (we already know that) because we've got enough Democrats in the House to initiate an impeachment movement, even though it would be tough to go through and conviction would be improbable. IMO, impeachment is a must if Democrats are ever to have any form of respect again.

Impeachment is a necessity!

Excellent post. You said it all, and you said it superbly.

Where as I agree that it is the right thing to do. I long ago got past pushing for victories whose only result was the same I would get from pissing my pants in a dark suit.

Attempting impeachment may feel good, but nobody will notice.

...I thought that this was a land of "laws."

-P

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/video_popups/pop_vid_impeachment1-1.html

Thanks for all you do, Roger.

The video is absolutely awesome!

Thanks, rgbecker. :thumbsup:

"We have a Congress that is basically an invertebrate"

"I am saying, we have a media problem as well"

"Nancy Pelosi is disregarding her oath of office"

So many great things those men have to say. What a pleasure it was for me to sit there, listen to these highly intelligent people discuss this, and get educated about this in aspects I wasn't aware of. If you haven't started a thread about this video yet, please do so ASAP. I listened to Part 1 and am so looking forward to listening to Part 2. Even though it is long, I was not bored for a second. Thanks again, rgbecker!



:toast:

that rgbecker posted in another thread:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/video_popups/pop_vid_impeachment1-1.html


Then let's discuss the impeachment issue.


EDIT: OOPS, I mean THIS thread! duh!

trials.

Let the truth be told, though the heavens fall.

-P

Impeach Now!
Impeach Now!
Impeach Now!

Impeachment is not the only path to justice. Why can't more people see that?

especially for the sake of reminding people to check out the important video that rgbecker posted in post #8.