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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 08:52 AM
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How does everybody feel about a Huckabee/Obama match-up?
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 09:21 AM by Virginia Dare
do you think the wingers would be able to stir up the base to turn out for that?

edit:

This is Huckabee vs. Obama in the general, not together as a ticket.


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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 08:54 AM
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1. Huckabee is radical in his beliefs
so, yes the wingers likely would get out and vote.

Obama is not the stuff of general elections. It will be a shame if he gets the nominee. We can do so much better.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:17 AM
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9. Unfortunately, "so much better" isn't running this year.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:23 AM
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13. yeah, but he supported Clinton!
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:14 PM
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36. It'll be a shame if he DOESN'T get the nomination...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:08 PM
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46. Huckabee/Obama would appeal to the evangelicals.
(did I misread the OP subject line?)
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 08:56 AM
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2. Isn't Hucky a minister?
That might be enough for the fundies to continue their blind drunken support of the GOP.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:13 AM
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5. Yes, indeed he is..
but there are lots of fundies who are waiting for their exalted leader James Dobson to tell them what to do.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:00 AM
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3. We don't run Republicans here, do we?
If you are implying Obama is a fundy, he is not. Who cares about what fundies want, anyway? We need crossover from moderates, not fundies.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:12 AM
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4. Not implying anything..
just asking how people feel they would match up, due to the fact that they're both surging right now in Iowa. No need to be so defensive.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:22 AM
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11. Very sorry
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 09:23 AM by WesDem
I misunderstood your OP :hi:

By the way, I think Huckabee will be their nominee.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:23 AM
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12. edited, I realized how you could have misconstrued...
:hi:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:13 AM
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6. Huckabee is a dangerous wolf in sheep's clothing
I'm telling you guys--he will be the repug nominee. Ghouli and Romney both have baggage. Huckabee has a disarming way about him that is atypical for most repugs, which makes him all the more dangerous. I'm sure we will still be able to beat him due to his lack of name recognition but we still have to watch him closely.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:13 AM
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7. I think he will be too...just my gut feeling right now..
although weinerdoggie claims there is some big dirt yet to come out on him.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:49 PM
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40. I hadn't seen that. Can you tell me
when weinerdogoggie posted the the Huckster has baggage?
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:43 AM
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22. He's the Evangelical Reagan. I think the base will rally around
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 09:44 AM by JohnnyBoots
him once nominated. The Fundies will fall back in love with the GOP once he is nominated. If he gets the backing of the Neocon faction as well he will be a tough opponent. The whole no evolution thing should really be a litmus test.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:16 AM
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8. Huckabee won't get the nomination, and would lose to any Democrat (except maybe Gravel) if he did.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:19 AM
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10. Do you live in a blue bubble?
With the corporate media, rural voters and misinformation, you honestly think a black man from Chicago has a chance to beat a rural, white minister from Arkansas?

You don't get out and talk to too many average citizens, do you?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:24 AM
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14. I have no doubt that we would see the ghost of Willie Horton..
being resurrected from the republican book of dirty tricks once again..:puke:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:36 AM
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15. I think you are wrong on both counts
I think Huckabee is going to be the GOP suprise nominee because he is going to do far better than anyoneexpect in Ioawa ans that sets up a win in SOuth Carolina. In a General electio campaign, Ithin Obam wins because of the fractures in the GOP and the fact that African AMerican Turn-out in SOuthern States will be phenomenal.


It would be an interesting tilt however and probably the cleanes campaing from the candidates we have seen in a while. The GOP minions are another story.

YOuy have to think of this electorally and you havce to think of it in terms of three states. Virginia, Missouri, and Ohio. We should win Florida. If we win any of the other three we win the election because most of the other states are either locked as blue or red reagardless of the candidate.

That electin would pivot somewhat on the VP nod. Huckabee/Guliani? vs Obama/Richardson?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 04:44 PM
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41. No, I live in Texas and even the right-wing nutjobs here think he's too fundamentalist on social
issues while they also think he's too liberal on fiscal issues.

Huckabee is a heartbreak candidate (like Paul); he gets the hopes up for some fringe constituency within the Republican Party but then the Party will crush him because they fear he is too far outside the mainstream (and perhaps too independent) to win.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:37 AM
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16. Not sure, but I think Sen. Obama would win handily.
Huck is rising in the polls but he's got a long way to go before 'electoral college victory.'
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:39 AM
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17. Exactly right.... see my post #15
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM
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20. Hi, Perky. Yes. The Pukes are in bad trouble for 08.
Which is great!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM
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18. I think Obama would clean his clock. People are getting sick of insane nutjobss like Huckabee
Even though half the voters in this country are stupid enough to vote for another Republican, I think that even those voters would draw the line with someone like this extremist.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:55 AM
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24. We sometimes forget that Bush had to sell himself as a moderate..
to get "elected" the first time. He had 9/11 under his belt the second time.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:01 AM
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28. True. In Huckabee's case I'm sure his "extremist" personna is appealing to the base of his party
as a desperation attempt to get their support, and it seems to be working, yet when the general election rolls around, he'd probably tone it down somewhat, although he is still one scary sounding SOB.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM
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19. GOP moderates and non-whackos in general would flock to Obama.
Yes, they do exist.

Trivia: one funny thing about a final contest between Obama and Huckabee would be that we would be forced to have a President with a last name that ended in a vowel, something we've never had before.

:P
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:41 AM
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21. Obama landslide. nt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:55 AM
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25. Even in the south?...n/t
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:57 AM
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27. south is irrelevant. and rightfully so. nt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:19 AM
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29. It's not irrelevent to a landslide..
if Obama takes no southern states, then there is no landslide.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:35 AM
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30. if it was relevant, it would not be a landslide. where it is important, Obama would sweep. nt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:42 AM
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31. The south is irrelevant...
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 10:43 AM by Virginia Dare
it wasn't in 2000, was it?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:45 AM
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32. since about 1861. nt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:13 PM
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35. Would you care to explain..
all of the southern born/transplanted Presidents in the last 140 years, not to mention the leadership of the House and Senate?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 01:57 PM
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38. imagine what might have happened if african americans could vote. nt.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:16 PM
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39. They certainly helped Bill Clinton get elected, no denying that...n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:43 AM
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23. Two nice guys...could be the most civilized campaign in history
Huckabee is one of the best options for the Republicans, so I think you're asking the right question. What's good about Huckabee is he doesn't drown himself in Reaganomic kool-aid and seems to be the only Republican that understands people are hurting out there because of pure laissez-faire economics. This alone would make him strong with independents and a competitive choice by the Republicans. At the end of the day, however, I think he's too nice for them and doesn't give wargasm-craving faction of the party what they so deeply desire.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 09:56 AM
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26. They'd probably let their V.P.'s sling the mud...
I still think it will be ugly however it shakes out.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 10:46 AM
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33. It'd be interesting. Or Obama vs Romney. In both, Obama kicks
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:09 PM
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34. I hope you're right..
I think it will probably be very close regardless. My blood pressure can't take another one of these I'm afraid.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 12:19 PM
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37. I think it might actually be about who inspires voters
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 12:19 PM by Bleachers7
More than the typical personality bullshit. I think Obama would have a slight edge. Also, Huckabee is tolerable to the fundy base. Huckabee is our biggest problem. He inspires the republicans that we have been dealing with for years. The right wing nuts would likely avoid Guiliani, Romney, and McCain.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 06:11 PM
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42. It would leave me scrambling for a candidate. n/t
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:00 PM
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44. Dems lose if this is the match up.
Huckster is a slick guy and could beat everyone save Dodd or Clinton.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 06:13 PM
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43. Uhm, no. n/t
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 07:06 PM
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45. Our base can beat their base. As it did last November.
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 07:06 PM by rocknation
because they're base is only a fraction of what they think it is.

:headbang:
rocknation
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