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SaveElmer

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:41 AM
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Hillary Speaks out on Saudi Arabian decision to lash Gang Rape victim...

Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 11:42 AM by SaveElmer

And Bush's lack of response...

"In 1995, I went to Beijing and said, �It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and for the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights.� We have made some progress since then. But we have not made enough. The latest example is the punishment of 200 lashes that a Saudi Arabian court has given to a victim -- the victim -- of a gang rape. This is an outrage. The Bush administration has refused to condemn the sentence and said it will not protest an internal Saudi decision. I urge President Bush to call on King Abdullah to cancel the ruling and drop all charges against this woman. As President I will once again make human rights an American priority around the world."

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Teaser

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:43 AM
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1. Love those Saudis

Such wonderful friends.

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indepat

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:23 PM
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11. Love those Saudis: what a swell bunch of fellas and good buddies except maybe those

purported 15 Saudis on the four airplanes on 9-11 and their supporters and their enablers and others who support international terrorism and those responsible/support the laws leading to such as this and the judiciary making such rulings as this and....

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K Gardner

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:22 PM
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48. Bush reportedly has "close ties" with Abdullah (sarcasm & pic)

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sufrommich

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:43 AM
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2. Yes,that is what I want to hear! nt

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Maccagirl

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:44 AM
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3. Good, point out that Bush has done nothing to help this victim

Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 11:44 AM by Maccagirl

Mr. "Let Freedom Reign".

:puke:

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riqster

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:47 AM
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5. Bush has raped the constitution, international law, the treasury...

...the environment, Iraq, Afghanistan, and on and on. His attitude fits perfectly with his track record.

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cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:45 AM
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4. Good for her.

I want to hear many more members of Congress and ALL the candidates for president saying the same thing.

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Adelante

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:47 AM
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6. Excellent

Thanks for speaking against barbarism, Senator.

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gaspee

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:51 AM
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7. Don't forget

W is for Women! I *still* see stickers like that every once in awhile. Even living in one of the bluest of the blue states. I don't even think we rate a purple on the map anymore.

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pnwmom

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:52 AM
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8. How about the other nominees? Have any of them made a statement? n/t

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:53 PM
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25. Yesterday I saw a reporter saying no candidates besides Obama had any comment on the subject..

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DURHAM D

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Wed Nov-21-07 11:53 AM
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9. Good for her.

It would not surprise me if Hillary is actually working through whatever channels are available to her to get to the House of Saud to get this stopped. Wonder if the King will take M. Albright's phone call?

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zabet

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:00 PM
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10. It took a woman

to have enough balls to speak out against this.

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cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:24 PM
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12. if any of the other candidates had spoken out

this post would have dozens of recs. pathetic. this is about aiding a woman being persecuted. it should be reommended.

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zabet

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:41 PM
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16. I agree.

It did get a rec from me.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:11 PM
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28. Well, I started a thread about OBAMA speaking out-two days BEFORE Hillary.

Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 02:11 PM by jenmito

So there. :P

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MNDemNY

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:34 PM
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37. Go eat fritos.

:puke:

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MannyGoldstein

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:35 PM
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13. Wow! She's Going Out On A Limb On This One!

As always, she's unafraid to take a controversial stand... braving hostility to take a stand that most Americans oppose. She knows that, in time, she'll bring us around to see the wisdom of her bold stand. She is not unlike The Founders, Lincoln, and FDR in this respect, and I only hope that she finds us worthy of her presidency.

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:40 PM
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Clintonista2

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:41 PM
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15. He's a kucinich supporter? are you serious?

I thought Kucinich supporters were pro women's rights?

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SaveElmer

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:03 PM
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20. Always someone who has to shit in the pool...only way he can get attention...

I guess...

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MannyGoldstein

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:43 PM
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22. Are You Thinking That The Intersection Of Me And DK Supporters

Is other than the null set?

That would not be correct.

(Well, I do support DK, but not for president.)

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riqster

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:44 PM
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17. So, she should only do the right thing when it hurts her political career??

That is wack. I say, good for Hillary.

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MannyGoldstein

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:46 PM
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23. It Would Be Nice For Her To Do Something Controversial For Twice

Ever since HillaryCare, she's played it safe on everything.

Everything.

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riqster

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:08 PM
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27. When you hammer someone no matter what they do

..they ignore you, and rightly so.

Give our donkeys carrots when they do right, and save the sticks for when they do wrong.

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cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:48 PM
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18. you need a link n/t

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SaveElmer

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Wed Nov-21-07 12:51 PM
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19. Here you go

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=4319

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MasonJar

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:36 PM
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21. What kind of world lashes the victim of a gang rape? One would expect

even a George W Bush to take a stand on this.

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 01:46 PM
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24. She's just doing it because she's a woman!

You know how they stick together.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:17 PM
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29. Didn't you make some pledge or something?

Guess it didn't last long.

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:20 PM
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30. No it didn't with the shit being slung around here today.

I have been reserved in my postings though. If you rather I go back to my old ways I will be more than happy to accommodate you.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:24 PM
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32. Oh, please. Like you didn't know people were going to continue posting their opinions?

You are no different today than yesterday IMO.

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:25 PM
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33. When people want to thorw shit around, I'll be there to throw it back.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:27 PM
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35. Care to quote the "shit" thrown around?

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:30 PM
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36. You have to look no futher than the the links in Cali's original post.

Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 02:31 PM by William769

In this thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3745492&mesg_id=3745492

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:35 PM
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38. I don't see anything that would cause you to reneg on your pledge...

but, whatever. :shrug:

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:36 PM
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39. Of course your wouldn't that the whole point of the thread.

But many others did.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 03:03 PM
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40. So what did you MEAN by this?:

My pledge to DU with this approaching Holiday season.

With all the infighting during this primary season so far (I have been just as guilty as the next person), I have decided to not participate in the spirited discussions we have had to date until January 1st, but to use my time & resources to helping the less fortunate. I had a very strange dream last night & I feel this is what my calling is to be for the coming season.

I wish all of you and your families the best this Holiday season however you decide to celebrate it.

Billy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3741370

Just hollow words...like the ones from Hillary. :rofl:

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 03:19 PM
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41. I already gave my reason.

But I see you avoiding the question as usual.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 03:37 PM
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42. You seemed to realize just what you'd be "giving up" yesterday...

I'm not avoiding anything. During that debate, she said she thought Spitzer's plan was a good idea, then denied saying it, then said it again. The next day she put out a statement saying she's FOR his plan and then at the debate she was against it (after she got him to go against it himself).

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 03:38 PM
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43. What are you talking about?

Was this just pulled out of thin air?

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:05 PM
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44. Nope...

it's common sense.

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William769

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:06 PM
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45. Where in this sub thread is any of that mentioned?

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:21 PM
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47. In THIS sub-thread? Nowhere.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:06 PM
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26. 2 days after Obama, but better late than never.

:hi:

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cali

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:23 PM
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31. your posting on this is reprehensible

the op wasn't braggin' on her being first. You post a nyah nyah thread about Obama being first. This is about a hideous miscarriage of justice. Pathetic to turn it into campaign one upsmanship.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 02:26 PM
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34. Um, I was talking about this post, above, which YOU responded to:

"It took a woman

to have enough balls to speak out against this."

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Cameron27

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:09 PM
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46. Jeeze jen,

this was a decent thread. There wasn't any reason to tear through it to score some points.

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jenmito

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Wed Nov-21-07 04:23 PM
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49. Sorry.

Really. :hi:

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Cameron27

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Wed Nov-21-07 05:41 PM
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50. I know.

It's so unlike you that I had to say something.

Have a great Thanksgiving!:)

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