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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:29 PM
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Any thoughts on the latest Reuters/Zogby national poll? Hillary now down to 38%.
Edited on Wed Nov-21-07 02:44 PM by Carrieyazel
http://www.zogby.com/

This poll has already been posted in detail. Any other thoughts??

Here's the three latest polls for Hillary from the outfits that have her significantly lower than the U.S. big media polls:

Reuters/Zogby: 38%
Cook Political Report: 39%
Rasmussen Daily: 41%
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:30 PM
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1. 38% of WHAT?
And do include the MOE.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:31 PM
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2. Isn't margin of error 5%?
If she was at 43% in other polls --how is a poll that reports her at 38% news?
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:34 PM
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3. Yes, MOE is 5%. But according to this poll she could be as low as 33% nationally.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:59 PM
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12. 4.3% MOE for Zogby
Clinton's decline during the past month is real but seems to be the only definitive movement shown. She was the beneficiary of a migration of undecideds in Oct., but that gain appears to be soft and things have settled back pretty much to where they were before.
:shrug:
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:34 PM
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4. Hillary's slipping.
My man Obama is moving on up.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:35 PM
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5. You have seen Rasmussen, right? Obama from 26 to 17 in 4 days.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:39 PM
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6. Good question...
How about including that Rasmussen daily tracking polll where Obama has dropped 9 points in 4 days?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history

DATE CLINTON OBAMA

NOV 21 41 17
NOV 20 43 20
NOV 19 41 24
NOV 18 41 26
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:42 PM
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7. Personally I put zero confidence in any poll.
Talking with other cheeseheads Hillary is polling at about 1%. If any of the big three candidates are left by our primary I do not see Hillary winning. I don't see her winning Wisconsin in the GE either.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:49 PM
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9. now that's funny. you don't put any credence in scientific polls
but you have full faith in your own limited experience talking to a a teeny eeny percentage of the Wisconsin voters. That's what I call creationist thinking.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:46 PM
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8. 6 weeks left - it will not be long before we have real numbers :-)
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:52 PM
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10. Yeah Zogby's dog ate all the ballots.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 02:55 PM
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11. Better look at the time chart to get a coorect picture she and Obama...
... are almost exactly at the same percentages as they were in September of this year. Edwards is a net gainer of a couple of points, all the rest stay the same. The changes that have occured is in the undecided group.

Getting godaam tiresome around here with nincompoops, and jackasses swooning or vaporing over each poll without understanding the things or putting them into a time context. But I guess the Repugs don't have a lock on the infection rate from the stupis virus!

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1392
...that is the time chart, will clear up the waters a bit


...
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:08 PM
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13. I take this seriously--
About as seriously as I took polls that showed her at 51%

Too soon to be taken seriously back then, and still too soon now.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-21-07 03:10 PM
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14. Her numbers are holding up very well in the face of constant negative personal attacks
By the GOP, Edwards, and Obama.
All that Madison Avenue poll-generated hatred, and she's *still* leading?
That's astonishing.
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