New OH Poll-Clinton -49% Ghouliani 44% /Ghouliani- 49% -Obama 41%

DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:11 AM
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New OH Poll-Clinton -49% Ghouliani 44% /Ghouliani- 49% -Obama 41%

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:13 AM by DemocratSinceBirth

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportEmail.aspx?g=8684e5c8-ef95-410f-b1d2-e3f623b34ed2

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:12 AM
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1. .

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:14 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:15 AM
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2. Thank You

Did Rasmussen go out of businnes?

He stopped updating his daily poll...

I don't think he polled on Thursday but where are Wed's numbers?

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:17 AM
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3. Yeah, it's odd. There shouldn't be a four day holiday gap in a tracking poll

He says he's going to 7 days a week on the daily tracking poll starting Dec. 1

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:20 AM
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4. He Uses A Robocaller!!!

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:24 AM by DemocratSinceBirth

So, it's not as if there are actual people doing the calling...

He should have an explanation... His polls are fun and he nailed 04 but I still treat them with a grain of salt because of his connections...

I hadn't posted for about four days because this board has become so hostile and contentious... I'll take another hiatus if it starts again...

I'm a Dem who wants to see Dems win; not seeing if I can beat everybody here in a pissing match...

Did you have a nice Thanksgiving?

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:26 AM
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5. Any Thanksgiving you walk away from...

dysfuntional fundementalists make for edgy holidays... nobody choses their family.

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:30 AM
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6. He just put up a Biden poll that I posted, so he's back in the office

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:39 AM
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8. PS: DSB you were away, so I don't know if you saw this post (d'oh...link added)

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:44 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3745804&mesg_id=3745804

I don't know that you would agree with it, but you are someone who would enjoy the historical wrinkles of the topic.

(I'm sure you will recognize that the comparisons are about behind-the-scenes experience, not comparisons of the overall personal quality of the people mentioned)

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:57 AM
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12. I Agree

She definitely knows how to navigate Washington and the world...

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ilovesunshine

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:34 AM
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7. Head to head survey usa poll

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=8d04025f-3b99-41fd-b488-a470924222b1

Shows Hillary blowing her competition away.

Unfortunately, Obama doesn't match up that well.

I guess this poll must be wrong.

*sigh*

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Skip Intro

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:56 AM
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11. But...I thought Obama was suuuurging! Yes, I guess the poll must be wrong.

but hey, have you seen that WaPo poll? I think its been posted here a time or two, lol.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:00 AM
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13. I'd Like A Dispassionate Argument Showing What Red Or Purple States He Puts In Play

I saw a poll showing him leading in IA by a point or two... IA is not enough if we lose FL and OH and IA went Bush* by less than a fraction of a percent...

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:03 AM
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14. The Iowa poll has a wrinkle to it...

It pits a man, Obama, who has a big presence in Iowa (including TV ads) against Giuliani, who has skipped Iowa, so Iowa is not very indicative of the national landscape.

(Clinton's weak showing in that poll does, however, suggest that she'll lose Iowa, which I expect to happen anyway)

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:12 AM
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18. That's The Same Inference I Drew

And the inference I drew from her weak showing in FL is that the Dems have shot themselves in the foot with all their shenagigans here... WTF? Dems can't campaign in the fourth largest state in the Union?

I don't care who's fault it is it is stupid stripping FL of its delegates...

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Kurt_and_Hunter

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:17 AM
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19. Florida has become the toughest of the big three (MO, OH and FL)

If the economy rolls off the table Texas might end up in play, but as things stand now Florida is looking redder than VA, NC or Kentucky, and that aint good.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:51 PM
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22. Maybe According To The "Latest " Polls

It's also important to look at recent electoral history...

Gore won it...Kerry came close and I can't think of a worse fit for FL than he was...

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Carrieyazel

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Sat Nov-24-07 07:34 PM
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29. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, New Hampshire

He doesn't put any states in play that weren't already. But these three Dem leaning battleground states go from slim Repuke chance to 50/50 chance or better for Ghouliani. He puts these states in serious danger for any Democrat.

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Carrieyazel

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Sat Nov-24-07 07:28 PM
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28. Being in an effective dead heat with Ghouliani is not blowing him away.

Hillary won't win Ohio either. We need to nominate someone who will win Ohio.

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nevergiveup

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:43 AM
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9. 97% Hispanics for Rudy

and 1% for Obama....yeah right!......also Hispanics heavily for Rudy over Clinton???????? These polls mean nothing until the nominees are decided.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 10:53 AM
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10. I Agree...That's Ridiculous...

But the MOE on that internal must be huge as there are not many Hispanics in KY...If they polled 500 people they must have polled 15 or so Hispanics...

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Basileus Basileon

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:53 PM
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24. "I do not like what the survey implies, therefore it is wrong."

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:55 PM
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25. I Suspect The Poll Is More Or Less Right... I Wouldn't Vouch For The Internals...

As I said there were probably fifteen or so Hispanics in the entire survey...

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:05 AM
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15. Look at other SUSA state polls. Sometimes Obama does better than Hillary

sometimes not. If I remember correctly, Washington was stronger for one, Oregon was stronger for the other.

I wouldn't say either Obama or HRC are "unelectable" but they both have their challenges. HRC already has her haters, and Obama will be raked over the coals for his perceived inexperience and scary muslim sounding name.

IMO, Edwards and Biden would perform better than each of them.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:08 AM
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17. Right Now That's Supposition

"IMO, Edwards and Biden would perform better than each of them."

You could be right ... I just don't know... I'd also throw Bill Richardson into the mix ...

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BeyondGeography

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Sat Nov-24-07 11:07 AM
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16. Obama hasn't spent any time or money to speak of in Ohio

Another meaningless set of figures.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:48 PM
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21. Has Senator Clinton?

DSB

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BeyondGeography

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Sat Nov-24-07 04:06 PM
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26. Brand name recognition

and once people get to know the product a little better, Obama's go this way (^) and Clinton's, errrr, see Iowa.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Sat Nov-24-07 07:35 PM
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30. IA Is About As Representative Of America As Bevery Hills Is Representative Of Greater Los Angeles

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 07:37 PM by DemocratSinceBirth

Or Manalapan is representative of South Florida...

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BeyondGeography

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Sat Nov-24-07 07:52 PM
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31. Yep, a bunch of "we don't get Hillary" freaks they are in Iowa

Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 08:06 PM by BeyondGeography

:freak:

Seems to be a trend with the Hill crowd: Iowa bashing (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3750548&mesg_id=3750746). Good luck with that.

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emilyg

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:42 PM
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20. Thank you.

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Basileus Basileon

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Sat Nov-24-07 12:53 PM
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23. We engage in the circular firing squad at our own peril. nt

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Carrieyazel

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Sat Nov-24-07 07:26 PM
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27. Statistical dead heat with Ghouliani. Hillary is a bad gamble.

That's the best she can do?? We need to nominate a candidate who will deliver Ohio. Not leave us up all night long Election Night wondering. Neither Clinton nor Obama will win it.

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