Tell us your first 3 choices, in order of preference

With 1 being your favorite.

Mine are:

1) Barack Obama
2) Joe Biden
3) John Edwards

Edwards, Biden, Obama; I'd be fine with any of them. I'm getting to like Biden more than I thought I would. I do hope one of them cleans Hillary's clock in Iowa.

Also: Dodd is starting to look good, too.

#3 is still up for grabs.

I like the most experience tempered with personality and judgement.
Truth is for me- that Dodd is way ahead of everyone else.

I don't know because I like Obama, Edwards, Dodd & Richardson pretty much equally. Honestly, Hillary and Gravel aren't far behind, either.

The others all have things I like and dislike about them, but there is no clear favorite yet.

(This question is asked not to bash, but just out of genuine curiosity :) )

I like his voting record, but that doesn't mean he would be a good president,

I like his politics, but being president takes a lot more.

IMO politicians can be put into 2 groups (though with fuzzy boundaries), leader-politicians and legislator-politicians. The skills, personality, and attitudes that made a good president are not necessarily the same ones that make a person a good congressperson.

Biden, Obama, Richardson, Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Edwards, Gravel, Third Party, blank ballot, Romney, McCain, Thompson, Giuliani, Huckabee, Tancredo, Paul.

1) HRC

2) Richardson

3) Dodd

Edwards
I don't know
I don't know

Sorry, I really don't - I like them all to some degree and have my issues about them all, as well but I am only voting once and as long as Edwards is in the race I am voting and working for him.

Edwards, Obama and number three is up for grabs. I was leaning heavy toward DK, but I'm waiting for clearifacation on the Ron Paul remark. I also do like Joe Biden a great deal.


My pick.

Biden, Richardson, Edwards, Clinton, and Dodd anyone of which I could wind up voting for in the primary and Obama, Kucinich, and Gravel for whom I wouldn't vote in the primary.

but you must have your reasons.

and the aftermath thereof. That wasn't the only thing but it was a deal breaker.

but I certainly understand your feeling about the whole situation.

I am in a state which votes in May.

Keep fighting the good fight! :thumbsup:

thrown gays under the GObama bus

Huge gap, that widens daily ...

...

Hillary

Small gap...

Edwards.

She's always been in position #2 but I'm finding it harder and harder to consider anyone other than my ...er ... our #1! :bounce:

Whatever the case, I'll be a loyal Democratic soldier once this shit is all sorted out.

...reverse order. :7 Sure wish they were running.

Wouldn't it be awesome if we actually ran the best from both parties.

that each party's candidate would really be chosen, and the president would ultimately chosen, won the basis of who would really be the best president. Seems so elementary, doesn't it? But this important and simple concept seems to be utterly lost in the recent elections, and judging from the bizarre nature of the 2008 race so far, it looks like it's not a priority for 2008 either. . . No question at all that Gore and Kerry would have won by a landslide if people had kept this criterion in mind in 2000 and 2004 (well, they both won anyway, but. . sigh. ).

...;)

Too damn bad the best ones aren't running.

Those three in any combination would be so much better than any of the current candidates, IMO.

Dem party (and the country) would be well served.

Though I think Obama on the ticket would draw more younger voters.

Biden/Obama ticket would be a clear winner.

:)

great choice...

:P

v

Come visit us at the Biden group (link on the bottom of the home page).
We are a tight group, all doing what we can for Biden.

best leaders for this country and believe we have to go along with those who have had the most experience and have proved that they are true blue in the political sense. Some of us older voters have thought Biden would fit the ticket in past elections. Both he and Dodd have the vitality, consistency and honesty that this country sorely needs.

That's why I support Biden. I feel he is the right man for these times. Not only for his foreign policy experience and knowledge, but his ability to work with people and get things done. (Dodd too) But I have to confess, that I believe Obama has alot on the ball - very bright, very thoughtful.

I went through this thread (up to this point) and awarded 3 points to the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third choice. I even recorded those that only chose 1 or 2. Here are the results:

Joe Biden................. 30
Edwards ................. 26
Obama ................... 26
Dodd ..................... 10
Kucinich ................ 10
Clinton .................. 9
Richardson ............ 5

What does this tell you? It tells me that Biden has more support on this board than many of us might imagine. It also tells me that while many are passionate about their first choice, Biden's name is not far behind.

-Paige

DU is out of step with the mainstream middle-America Dem Party - just saying.

The only difference is that Hillary has little support over here and in many parts of the country she does.

x 3

1) Kucinich
2) Edwards
3) Dodd

1) Any Dem running
2) Any Dem running
3) Any Dem running

he loses me more daily.

:)

Here's the update (from where "I" left off on my last post:

Biden 40
Edwards 35
Obama 34
Kucinich 15
Clinton 14
Dodd 14
Richardson 5

I still show Biden well ahead.

-Paige

Solid on Edwards, and not yet sure who to rank second.

Once again...I awarded 3 points for first choice, 2 points for second choice and 1 point for third.

Biden 45
Edwards 38
Obama 34
Kucinich 15
Clinton 17
Dodd 17
Richardson 6


-P

will post something similiar and put HRC first and no two or three.....ANd one other thing HRC does not need obama to win Illinois if you thinking of obama being the vp choice.

I do thank you
Ben David

Dodd and Obama are at 94 and 93.

Then Kucinich, Gravel, and Richardson, respectively at 92, 91, and 90.

Senator Clinton at around an 80.

Bloomberg would be a 75 or so.

All the Pukes would be weighing in around '0.'

A little confused.

-P

Bella Abzug, Mario Cuomo, Robert F. Kennedy, and Bill Moyers would be at 100%.

I will tell you that I think Mario Cuomo comes closest to being the soul of our party. I wonder what this country and world would have been like if he had become president.

-Paige

and agree with your comment about the heart and soul of the party.

If anybody needed a reason to join the Democrats instead of the Republicans, Mario Cuomo is that reason.

1) Obama

2) Richardson

3) Dodd

4) Not sure between Clinton or Edwards

Al Gore
Howard Dean
Dennis Kucinich

Only one of those guys is apparently running this time. I cannot even consider any other candidates at present.

1) Edwards
2) Obama
3) Biden

enormous gap between dennis and everyone else. dennis simply is the personification of my exact ideas and conceptions. i just wish i had the balls to go vegan (which i don't). edwards i like very much, i believe him to be pandering but he happens to be pandering to the right kind of people (me). he's a good man. but i need to truly believe he is sorry for his senate erm career. gravel actually came and spoke at nyu and is really cool. biden i want in the cabinet, not really as president. its really dennis for me. for GE too.

Actually preferred:
Kooch
Edwards
Obama

Realistic:
Obama
Edwards
Whoever

My actual rankings would be Clark, Gore, Feingold, and possibly Kerry before any of our current choices. I might be tempted to rank Dodd first of those running if he had any chance in Hell. My ranking Biden first is tentitive and my small way of giving him a boost. If he doesn't start moving up with more voters soon I face the odd prospect of technically supporting Clinton while planning to cast a protest message vote for someone to the left of her in the New York primary, since I figure the race will be over before then anyway. I thought my literal vote would go to Kucinich, but with the Ron Paul talk that is now on hold.

I am not pleased with my options this year. I would be drawn toward Obama more if he had more "seasoning" under his belt.

Here are the latest standings for this thread:

Biden 50
Edwards 45
Obama 40
Kucinich 21
Clinton 19
Dodd 19
Richardson 8

-Paige

From the look of things, I'm not the only Obama supporter to narrow it down to these three...

1) Clinton
2) Biden
3) Richardson

n/t

I'm looking for a candidate who has a proven ability to get things done and a global vision that I can agree with. My preference is for someone who's actually done some of the things he or she has talked about. I also do not want to vote for someone who was responsible for getting us into this mess in Iraq.

I like Richardson because I believe that his experience has prepared him to do the almost herculean job of cleaning up after the Bush adminstration. He has international credibility, a good record on environmental issues and seems to make the most sense of the lot on immigration--once again a result of his experience as New Mexico's governor. His health care plan is not much better or worse than most of the others. I wish he were less of a free trader but you can't have everything.

I'd pretty much dismissed Barack Obama as too green for the job but I can't help but be impressed with the way he's run his campeign. He's moved up in my estimation--at least for today.

Dennis Kucinich is always spot on with the issues and if I can't get enthusiastic about a candidate with a chance to win I may just vote for Dennis to send them a message. I am also liking Biden more and more as the campaign goes on.

That's today. Tomorrow of course could be different.

Richardson tends to be the best fit for me on most policies. Every one of those silly little candidate position tests I take, he comes out on top usually followed by Kucinich.

On trade, Richardson cosponsored a bill to tie MFN status with China to improvements in human rights. He's held a position on tying trade to human rights to trade throughout his career and has moved much further to the left on other trade issues. He's against the Peru trade agreement.

I think he originally supported NAFTA because he thought he it would reduce illegal immigration. If the bill had been done right, it probably would have accomplished that. He also was the Deputy Democratic Whip in the house at the time and Clinton made passage of NAFTA one of his priorities. With the rise of the EU, I thought NAFTA was a good idea at the time. If we'd done it more like the EU, it would have probably benefited all three countries.

Sadly, none of them are running, so I don't have a clue - and we vote in early February.

then Dodd and Kucinich. The a huge gap to Edwards, Gravel, and Obama bringing up the rear.

with Biden and Edwards both being good VP choices.

I'm not being glib here. Biden and Edwards are my second and third choices for President, and I had them in the subject line at first, but it's like Clinton-97% Biden-2% Edwards-1% in terms of weight so, for me anyway, the truth is it's really just Hillary. It's her time and it's America's time for her.

This is both an historical moment, a pivotal political moment, and a fundamental generational moment.
And Hillary is, by a huge margin, the only correct answer to any of those three considerations, let alone all three together.

I appreciate your honesty, although I can make the same case for Obama.

Here are the latest standings for this thread.

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 68
Obama 55
Edwards 53
Clinton 31
Kucinich 29
Dodd 20
Richardson 15

It looks like Obama and Clinton moved up. Still, Biden carries a comfortable lead.

-Paige

I think Biden is doing everything right at this stage of the game and appears to be finishing hotter than any of the others. I'll be happy with almost any of the field getting the nom (save a few of em).

1. Hillary
2. Biden
3. Dodd

Here are the latest standings for this thread.

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 78
Obama 61
Edwards 61
Kucinich 41
Clinton 36
Dodd 21
Richardson 16


Kucinich moves up dramatically.

-Paige

I have a tie for first place here, followed up by Obama. As a caucus participant, I believe I will caucus for the least-represented among these three, and will do whatever I can to ensure that each of these groups remains viable and sends at least one delegate forward...

In all reality, I may caucus for any non-viable group if it means they will remain viable and prevent them from dispersing their support to other candidates (unless of course those candidates are Biden, Clinton, or Obama).

Follow me?

1)Biden
1)Clinton
3)Obama

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ON EDIT: If you want to count my support, consider Biden #1, Clinton #2 for now.

Thanks!

1. gore (< who we know now isn't running)

2. kucinich

3. biden/obama/edwards (< i play musical candidates depending on my mood when i get up in the morning)

eta. for a qualifier - obama wins musical candidates most often based on his uncanny earnestness (or an oscar worthy performance of it) and his oration. it appeals to me. i love to listen to him speechify, but i'm not sure i want to commit yet. i like edwards' positions more sometimes, but earnest and eloquent he is not. smarmy used car salesman is hard for me to overcome even though my rational side knows better that personality isn't the be all and end all. when they don't fit my values close to 100% (kucinich is the only one who does that) then personality becomes more important to me. and when they both piss me off, biden steals the show. not the most interesting candidate by far, and probably 4th on my list among the declared candidates when it comes to issues, he's got the experience no one else has and not being a top tier candidate has more freedom to say what's on his mind.

Used to be I had a complex but elegant system regarding who I was going to vote for in the primaries.

If Hillary isn't a threat to win, vote Kucinich.
If Hillary is a threat to win and Edwards isn't competitive, vote for Obama, who probably would be.
If Hillary is a threat to win and Edwards IS competitive, vote for Edwards.

Unfortunately, after the whole pandering to religious nutters instead of the base of his own damn party, I don't think I can vote for Obama either. The difference between Obama and Hillary, as far as I'm concerned, is that I cannot bring myself to waste a vote on Hillary in the general election, whereas Obama has a (slim at this point) chance of convincing me otherwise.

But to be perfectly honest, I'm not even that excited about Kucinich or Edwards. What the hell is the matter with our party that this is the best we can do? An only vaguely pro-choice guy who, while on the ball most of the time, is widely seen as a complete loon for a variety of reasons and will never ever in a million years get elected; and an ex-lawyer that, while he's done some pretty good work in the past, he's still a lawyer and that's the kiss of death to a lot of people who might otherwise get behind him (leaving aside the whole issue of whether he's genuine or just really slick).

We need another FDR to fix this country after the last 25 years of failed policy (and before you bring up Clinton's eight: Don't Ask Don't Tell, Welfare 'reform', NAFTA, DOMA, DCMA, etc), and this is what we get? It does not fill me with a great deal of confidence regarding our chances for meaningful change come next November.

to be realistic. I like Kucinich, but he doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell to win the General election. I will not discuss the candidates I really don't like ;)

Here are the latest standings for this thread.

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 86
Obama 67
Edwards 73
Kucinich 52
Clinton 38
Dodd 22
Richardson 16

Kucinich makes another good gain...Biden still leads comfortably.

-Paige

and that's why voters number 2 matters in Iowa.

Biden,Obama, Kuncinch

1. Biden
2. Dodd
3. Obama


Tough call between Dodd and Obama, but I guess I'm just not all that comfortable with someone who hasn't been swimming with the sharks a little longer than Obama.

The next president will have NO margin for error - none -- and I feel experience is need at this time more than ever. (Jeez - I just quoted Biden without meaning to! Yikes!)

Clinton
Richardson
no 3rd

Clinton is very DLC. Richardson - meh.

Obama is also DLC.

Edwards - not DLC
Kucinich - not DLC
Biden - used to be, not sure
Dodd - DLC

1 - Edwards
2 - Obama
3 - Biden

That's today. Some days it goes like this:

1 - Edwards
2 - Biden
3 - Obama

Edwards
Obama
?

1) Hillary

2) Richardson

3) Biden

Here are the latest standings for this thread.

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 97
Edwards 81
Obama 74
Kucinich 53
Clinton 45
Dodd 24
Richardson 20


-Paige

Thanks for doing this.

Obama - just can't see winning demographic of certain electoral vote heavy swing vote states in the GE.
Edwards - less experience than my top 3.

Edwards first and any one of the others for vice

2. Obama

3. Edwards

Kucinich, Biden, Edwards.

To be honest, it's DK, DK, and DK.

Biden, Edwards, and Richardson all run about even behind him.

1. Joe Biden
2. Bill Richardson
3. John Edwards

Here are the latest standings for this thread. (As of 7:57 PST)

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 109
Edwards 92
Obama 79
Kucinich 60
Clinton 49
Dodd 25
Richardson 23

Pretty interesting.

-Paige

n/t

Since Biden's going for public funding, Clinton's in top place,

Biden #2

Dodd #3

It's not like he would be hurt in the GE.

because I thought he made some good points about the disadvantage he'd be in after the convention, but before the GE started.

Here, this is what worries me about public funding:

I guess

Here are the latest standings for this thread. (As of 10:30 PST)

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 123
Edwards 102
Obama 82
Kucinich 64
Clinton 52
Dodd 28
Richardson 23

Shall I keep going???

-Paige

Biden is the 2nd and 3rd choice for many DUers, since he never wins the pick-your-candidate polls, but does well here.
Also, Kucinich is not the 2nd and 3rd choice for many DUers, since he always wins the pick-your-candidate polls, but is 4th here.

So on DU, Edwards and Biden are probably our "consensus" candidates.

I was going to continue tabulating these number for another day and then sit down and start a thread which addresses the results of this thread. You have anticipated some of what I was going to say...I would like to hear what others are thinking about these results.

I'll probably write something tonight on the subject.

You might also note that many other DU polls have Biden doing better than I think many might have imagined.

-Paige

I don't feel comfortable with either Clinton or Obama.

Kick to see if anyone else ants to vote,

-Paige

Obama's my favorite, but any combination of those 3 on the Democratic ticket would be great.

Can you tell I like the guy?

He is by far, the right choice for America in these deperate and critical times we share with others around the globe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HcXkLbRIWw

ok, I'd take the other candidates over any of the pugs, but MY "top tier" is those two. Maybe I'd put Dodd in third.

What does that say about me? I pick three not-short white males.

Oh, well, so be it. I like them best.

Here are the latest standings for this thread. (As of 5:25 PST)

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 133
Edwards 116
Obama 87
Kucinich 64
Clinton 52
Dodd 34
Richardson 25

Any more?

-Paige

... whoever can beat Hillary.

Here are the latest standings for this thread. (As of 7:56 PST)

Once again I awarded 3 points for the first choice, 2 points for the second choice and 1 point for the third.

Biden 133
Edwards 116
Obama 103
Kucinich 70
Clinton 52
Dodd 40
Richardson 25

Any more?

-Paige

;k;

1. Gravel
2. Kucinich
(really these are the only two I'd seriously consider supporting in any meaningful way)
3. Dodd

After them,

4. Edwards
5. Biden, Obama or Richardson (hard to pick between these 3 for me)
6. Clinton (who I would never, ever vote for-- I'd probably sooner vote for Paul)

N/T

and this is a repeat poll.