Feeling the heat, Hillary backtracks on "positive agenda", starts slinging mud of her own

November 15:
HILLARY: “But for him (Edwards) to be throwing this mud and making these charges I think really detracts from what we're trying to do here tonight. We need to put forth a positive agenda for America...”
http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2007/11/transcript.htm

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November 19:
ABC/WaPo Poll released showing Obama with four point lead in Iowa
http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Vote2008/story?id=3887274&page=1

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November 20:
HILLARY: "Now voters will judge whether living in a foreign country at the age of 10 prepares one to face the big, complex international challenges the next president will face," said Clinton. "I think we need a president with more experience than that. Someone the rest of the world knows, looks up to, and has confidence in. I don't think this is the time for on the job training on our economy or on foreign policy."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/clinton-mocks-o.html

Another baseless attack against Sen. Clinton, by a DUer not thinking critically.

In the debate, Hillary decried "mudslinging" because Edwards criticized her for wanting to keep troops in Iraq and for supporting K/L.

In the latter quote, Hillary slams Obama for claiming his living overseas amounts to meaningful "experience." Today, she accuses Obama of using his PAC in a way that "appears to be inconsistent with the prevailing election laws."

Which is more indicative of "mudslinging" in your view?

Anyway, we all know what she said. My intent was not to misconstrue but to offer a descriptive side-by-side.

EDIT deleted. :toast:

If you honestly feel someone has violated the law, you are not throwing mud at them.

Mudslinging, in my view, consists of personal attacks.

Mudslinging would be what Obama did, when he said he's not running for President to fulfill some long held sense of entitlement to the White House. It was a straw-man attack against Sen. Clinton, based off of some "rumor" that Sen. Clinton and former President Clinton, made some alleged pact to both run for President.

Mudslinging would be what Obama did, when he said he doesn't want to re-fight the battles of the 90's. Read: Sen. Clinton is too polarizing to be President, and let's blame her for Ken Starr's investigation of her. Let's blame her for Newt Gingrich and Alphonse D'Amaoto's hatred of her.

The "mud" that Edwards flung were character attacks about how Hillary wasn't honest and that she was campaigning like a repuke.

That *was* mud. Clinton is questioning an argument that Obama has made about his expreience, and not attacking his character. Clinton is not throwing mud

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...the confident frontrunner who said she wouldn’t attack other Democrats just two weeks ago?

That candidate is out. Desperado is in.

Good idea Hillary. Who do you recommend?

based on all the threads.

As for the mudslinging it is a joke. They all do it to some extent, yet supporters can't see it when their guy/gal does it.

She's worried. Good for her.

Obama had the audacity to hope he could get away with questioning Hillary's twelve years in the governor's mansion, eight years in the White House and eight years in the Senate as actual experience because she wasn't Secretary of the Treasury. Obama wasn't even a secretary in a law firm.

Hillary has twenty-five years in some of the highest political positions in the country, has visited hundreds of leaders both in their own countries and here in the White House, and Obama actually believes that because he played in his friend's back yard in a foreign country when he was ten, that he has the cred. Unreal.

If Obama were honest, and he's not, he'd have said he has some experience and he'll get more quickly. If Obama was about a more respectful polity like he says he is, but he's not, he wouldn't have even made the smear. His whole new-politics line is phony. This is about the fifth time he's proven it.

Every time he opens his mouth without a pre-written speech in it, he diminishes himself.

Excellent use of quotes, by the way.