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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:52 PM
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Clinton endorsed by S.C. ministers amid faith fight with Obama
SPARTANBURG, S.C. --
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton picked up endorsements from dozens of black ministers Tuesday in South Carolina, an early voting state where she and rival Barack Obama have been courting the critical black vote.

The clergy were drawn to the New York senator for her views on health care, jobs and other issues, said a state representative who helped organize the endorsements. "They felt this was the best candidate addressing their concerns," said state Rep. Harold Mitchell, a Democrat from this northern part of the state.

Nearly half of South Carolina's Democratic primary voters are black, and ministers can play a huge role in shaping the political direction of their congregations. More than 60 ministers gathered with Clinton on a stage at a hotel and her campaign said 80 were in the room where the endorsements were announced.

Clinton, in a wide-ranging speech to a crowd of more than 450, touched on her plans to expand health care, better public education and improve the image of the U.S. She said she would send emissaries around the globe - and mentioned former Secretary of State Colin Powell as "someone I know very well" - to send a message the era of "cowboy diplomacy is over."

"I understand we've got to take on health insurance companies and the drug companies," she said. "Don't you think it is time for us to do that?"

The Rev. Timothy Brown, of Cleveland Chapel in Spartanburg, said Clinton will get government to a "better plateau." He also referenced Obama, a first-term senator who wrote a book called "The Audacity of Hope."

"We need to look for a leader that is ready to lead right now," Brown said. "We don't need to be filling our heads with hopes and dreams."

The endorsements came as Clinton tries to widen what one recent poll showed was as much as a 10 percentage point lead over Obama, an Illinois senator.

"This is just the beginning," said state Sen. Darrell Jackson, a Columbia minister working for Clinton. Similar announcements are in the works in other regions of the state, he said.

http://www.thestate.com/309/story/241181.html
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:54 PM
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1. Damn those evil DLC corporate war-mongering black ministers!
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 12:54 PM by Lirwin2
:rofl::rofl::rofl:


Go Hillary!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:23 PM
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19. WOO-HOO! Just wait until Oprah is viewed as a Traitor to Women!
She should have stayed OUT of IT until after the Nom!
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:54 PM
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2. See, you don't need a BIGOT to keep the faith.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:02 PM
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7. I rarely say it................ Amen Billy
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:24 PM
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20. Yep, 2 thumbs UP!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:55 PM
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3. I love God!
No I love God. I love God more than you do! Now way, God knows I love him WAY more.

Give me a break.

Two words: Matthew 25
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:01 PM
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6. Or perhaps Matthew 6
Matthew 6

1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:04 PM
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9. Very smart.
Thank you.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:26 PM
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22. Did Jesus cater to the Pharisees?
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:26 PM by Tellurian
He threw their fat asses out of the Temple.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:57 PM
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4. so Obama crawling through the
homophobic stench and slime of McGurkin didn't quite pan out the way he hoped it would?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 12:58 PM
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5. Good on that.
:kick: and recommend
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:02 PM
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8. How come the Clinton supporters commenting here
can't just be pleased with this without slamming another candidate?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:04 PM
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10. Wah!
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 01:05 PM by Lirwin2
"STOP BEING MEAN POOPIE PANTS!"
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:12 PM
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12. Clinton supporters?
One is not plural.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:05 PM
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11. Oh Darrell Jackson
Are we going to hear all the homophobe charges against Hillary's campaign now? Are we going to hear about him standing on the floor of the SC State House opposing gay marriage?

These people have been supporting her for months, nothing new here. I think it's sad that people would tell their parishioners not to fill their heads with hopes and dreams. What the hell is the point of this country if not to fill your head with hopes and dreams.
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:16 PM
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13. Abandon ye all hope!
Vote for Clinton! :eyes:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:17 PM
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14. "We don't need to be filling our heads with hopes and dreams."
I find that statement disturbing.

Isn't that what politics is supposed to be about in a positive sense? Isn't part of leadership supposed to be to helping to define dreams and offer hope that they can be accomplished?

Heck, without hopes and dreams we might as well hire accountants as leaders, who will simply manage our existing problems and perpetuate the status quo.

That, IMO, is what's wrong with Democratic politics today. we've been so beaten down and cowed that we automatically reject the notion of hope and we've given up dreaming of a better world.



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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:20 PM
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15. The American dream starts with "hopes and dreams."
Historically that has always been a good thing.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:21 PM
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16. I agree
I found that statement disturbing as well.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:21 PM
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17. Hopes and dreams
form the basis of everyone's choice, but the other piece of that is deciding who can actually get those dreams inacted into law.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:30 PM
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23. The Founders gave us our Hopes and Dreams..nothing new here..
They voted for change too!

The Clinton era was one of "Peace and Prosperity" if that isn't change, I don't know what is!
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:22 PM
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18. It helps to be sincere about religion like she is & not have to flaunt it
When the only way anyone knows you're being religious is when they have to "catch" you "secretly" praying somewhere, like what everyone was creaming their jeans about on DU the other day, then they know you're not running around trying to jam faith down everyone's throats.

I gotta give it to her. The lady is smart as well as sincere. She doesn't have to flaunt anything to convince people who they should vote for and who they shouldn't.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:24 PM
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21. Funny
The irony here is something else.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 01:56 PM
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24. "I understand we've got to take on health insurance companies and the drug companies," she said. "Do
"I understand we've got to take on health insurance companies and the drug companies," she said. "Don't you think it is time for us to do that?"

yeah, she'll "take on" her biggest contributors. take their money is more like it.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:56 AM
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25. kicked for cali
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:23 PM
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26. But, but, but Obama says he is just like Joshua
Obama is Biblical!! How could they not endorse the 2nd coming of Joshua?
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