Hillary Clinton plans to use Colin Powell to restore Americas Image?

Are you kidding me?

SPARTANBURG, S.C. — Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that if elected U.S. president she would call on former Secretary of State Colin Powell as part of a bipartisan diplomatic delegation to be sent abroad to restore America's image.

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"I won't even wait until I'm inaugurated, but as soon as I'm elected I'm going to be asking distinguished Americans of both parties — people like Colin Powell, for example and others — who can represent our country well, including someone I know very well, " she said smiling while making reference to her husband and former President Bill Clinton. "Because I want to send a message heard across the world. The era of cowboy diplomacy is over."


more here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,313210,00.html
and here: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/clinton-calls-o.html

edit: restore. not resore.

Colin Powell sold this country down the river ~ what is she thinking?!?!?!

this is totally off the wall.

Powell lost any credibility he had when he lied to the UN about Iraq.

at the time of the vote, Hillary specifically based her vote on trust of what Powell had said, as if in her personal experience of the great man- who undercut and grouched against her husband as a potential rival throughout his administration- there could be no worthier guarantor of the need for war(everyone believes Powell the e-mail seemed to gush). She might as well have been a FOX news reporter. Daftness tends never to learn much less admit such error. Thanks to this untimely gratuitous rush to gush over a prime liar for her disastrous authorization vote she confirms pretty much what she said then.

There is special despair in knowing that innocent lives will be squandered because of that unwavering poor judgment.

Rec'd, then. :)

Powell's speech to the UN used information he highly suspected but didn't know for a fact was false. He's regretted it ever since. I sense that Powell is a good man; Powell is not a batshit crazy neocon. He may be a Republic, but he's one of the "good" Republics. Olympia Snowe would be another example of a "good" Republic.

Powell may have lost some credibility after the UN speech, but who knows what he told world leaders he met with afterwards off the record. And, Powell has been nothing but critical of this administration since he left while at the same time maintaining his persona of being the "good and loyal soldier".

I think Powell would do this not just for Hillary, but for just about anyone that was the president. He'd probably turn down Bush.

powell has been a whitewasher since jump. he's a piece of shit.

he should never have argued using that information. period. I really dont give a damn how "sorry" he is. Hillary is Not Sorry... and shes the one hiring him.

... he lied and he knew there was a high probability that what he was saying was untrue.

You can make all the excuses for him you wish to, but you are not going to fool any of us who were here when all of this stuff went down and who KNEW that these "facts" he was spouting were not true.

In fact, I quit giving money to public radio after 17 years when on one Sunday morning, Powell came on and blathered his load of bullshit for 5 minutes - and then there was no analysis, no counterpoint, no critique, no nothing - just a raving lackey military "shine your shoes sir" jerk saying what he was told to say.

No more credibility for Powell, who had a HISTORIC opportunity to stand up and do the right think and maybe just maybe foil Bush's march to war, but who instead folded like a paper napkin and lied his ass off.

And no more money for NPR. Fuck those liars too.

the UN coupled with the facts about Iraq's supposed WMD's should have known that the whole damn thing was a very phony and sloppy presentation. Most people who were really concerned and knowledgable about an Iraq invasion were voicing their concerns, especially in Europe.
Powell has proved himself to be a not so very smart politician and a person who will do anything to further his own ambitions. Research Powell re.Mai Lai.
Hillary Clinton is exhibiting very poor judgement in entertaining using anyone from Bush's administration. No way can I support her and I am not alone.

as well as the rest of the hacks that are always floating around when commissions are put together.

Oyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

That would be "Oi" Which would also be acceptable if yoru a brit Punk sort.

REMOVED. UNABLE TO FIND PROOF OF APOLOGY.

So I deleted my post. I am almost positive that I've heard an apology on a morning news show, but I don't have time to search forever... so I'll just say I was wrong and be done with it.

I guess John Negroponte had other plans.

What a slap in the face this is!

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;)

even you have got to admit this is not a smart move. Obama talking to him was bad... but Clinton making him an international delegate is worse. A proven liar. A war criminal. To represent our nation? Can you think of any good reason for it?

Obama has/is taking foreign policy advice from Powell.

Clinton has done NOTHING with Powell.

but she will if she becomes President. A candidate talking to someone isnt the same & you know it. Has Obama plans to use Powell in his administration?

...like you can. :)

I DO have a magic 8 ball Wyld. Don't make me use it. :)

On another note... I admire your dedication to your candidate. Even if it means we rarely agree.
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I love your reasoning wyldwolf. Grow up.

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Psst! Since the subject is Colin Powell and Hillary Clinton, most would agree Powell's chummy relationship with Obama is quite relevant to the discussion.

Killing Iraqis isn't.

They talked. Nothing more, nothing less.

Get your facts straight, Hillbot, I mean, wyldwolf.

..unless you're going to try and draw some weird distinction between talking about Foreign policy a number of time and advising on it.

Get your facts straight, Obamanut, I mean, Nedsdag.

they have to agree with everything their candidate does, no matter what. That they can't criticize their candidate. Well its rare but I don't agree with Hillary on this and I'm not afraid to say so.

I don't like this at all, and Hillary is wrong to even consider Powell for any position!

Powell is a traitor to the United States for what he did.

I wish more people had that reasoning.

Jeezem, Powell was smack dab in the middle of creating the damage in the first place.

I don't think the way to deal with America's militaristic image is to send out a general for PR.

but Colin frigging Powell?!

the gutter..how do you feel about that, Mook?

"What kind of fuckery is this?" * Amy Winehouse

me thinks.

:scared:

"Drop out mine eyeballs and let envious
fortune play at tennis with 'em!"

From "The Athiest's Tragedy" by Cyril Tourneur

Incredible.

They raked Obama over the coals regarding reports that he talked with Powell, even saying Obama was being advised as neocons.

This will be no problem for many of her supporters.

Her husband offered him a position in his administration but he turned it down. What makes her think he won't turn her down? Plus, he's proven that he is not all that.

Not.

Hillary sure knows how to pander, she's got that down better than anyone. Just what we need in our next President. To hell with change, let's tell 'em what they want to hear and do something else! :eyes:

Atta girl, Hill!

Meet the new boss...

...same as the old boss.

and I don't like Clinton suggesting that she will either. Tenet and Powell capitulated to Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld.

I'm sure whoever gets elected next year will be doing a lot of talking with whoever is in charge at that point. (I won't say George because he might be leaving early.:evilgrin:

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this image. This goes to show you with Hillary, it will be more of the same as in this administration.

It's all show and no substance with this crowd. What? She thinks nobody knows :wtf: powell's been up to for the last few decades?

He deserves a world of criticism, but advocating cowboy diplomacy is not one of them. Not doing enough to stop it? Yes. But advocating it? No.

Buy going to the UN and giving that phony report to justify an invasion, he was advocating for cowboy diplomacy.

By echoing and carrying out the claims of the bush administration -- and defending the administration's foreign policy, he was advocating cowboy diplomacy.

By both commission and omission, he was one of the prime enablers of the policies and actions that have caused the damage to America's reputation and actual power in the world.

Powell was among the people at the table in 1992 when the first version of PNAC was written. Besdes, while he cheerfully takes credit for a policy written by a dozen people, The Powell Doctrine, he never raised an eyebrow as he watched this junta violate all of its principles when invading Iraq. I've come to believe that Powell's touted smarts and abilities are just a myth. WTH is a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action person doing hanging out with a bunch of creeps?

Powell=the values of none.

And some praise her "judgment" and find fault with the "judgment" of other candidates? This is unbelievable but predictable from the camp of the "alleged front runner".

Powell aka Bowel is a cow toe. We make them pay on the ROCK for their treacherous behavior.

Hillary and Powell should be sent to the Hague. I am against the death penalty but "Off With Their Heads"
Wake up my fellow American, I know many of you are brainwashed by the pope and false Christianity. Live free or die.

Love and Light

We all remember when Colon Bowels jumped the shark.

But I have a hard time believing she would actually send the traitor Powell to restore our image. Incredible.

Some might argue, and I would be one of them, that Powell's Tissue of Lies before the UN can't be grouped in with American History, as Bushes Imperial Amerika has nothing to do with that country, doesn't believe the same things as that country did, and is on the side of dictators and tyrants full and 100% now, whereas Old America at least supported Human Rights with one face while supporting Bushie Vassal Dictators like Marcos and Pinochet with another.

I wonder if this is a Fox Noise Special Lie, though, but if it is true...that's disgusting.

It appears to be true. Amazing isnt it?

:wtf: :banghead: Who is going to look down the road once again and realize the mistake made? That is the question. I know not this guy. But keep us informed though.

Not in the least.

Poor judge of character.

With seats on the Supreme Court almost certainly coming up during the next President's term, this kind of...Jesus, what is it exactly?

It just seems scary stupid to let Powell near ANYTHING involving policy or the face we put on American diplomacy.

What has he ever done that was so spectacular that he still has this much reputation and this much credibility, that candidates are still dropping his name? I don't hate the guy, I think he's smart and it's unfortunate that he sullied his own integrity and honor by consorting with BushCo, but--what elevates him to greatness, at this point?

Hillary my dear. You still have to win the Democratic nomination don't you???? Many Dems believe Colon Bowel to be the worst SOS next to Condo Rice. Are you out of your mind???

This cinches it. Her campaign doesn't know what the f*** they're doing. She's obviously (and foolishly) running a general election campaign. But here's the instructional part:

If she said it during a general election campaign, that would also be stupid, since Powell has been
discredited among many Independents as well. Many Indeps also feel Powell let them down in the run-up to Iraq.

We go with Hillary at our peril.

Please please please.

Come on, you have got to be kidding.

His bullshit testimony convinced many democrats that we should invade.

I just don't know how

I still remember Colin Powell's speech to UN about Iraq's mobile WMD labs. Where was Hillary? Why not invite Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz while we are out?

my point is Mr. Powell and Condi both lied and new that they lied, not the bs we here from Colin that he was mis-led. I would be more interested in Mr. Powell being served with a subpoena by the judiciary committee. (Condi would just ignore it...) Both need to serve time!

oh, wait, he already did that.

you might want to un-edit your edit, because re-sore works quite well.

hanging out with Michael O'Hanlon (Clinton foreign policy advisor and PNAC) and Gen. Jack Keane (AEI and Clinton's military advisor.) Maybe they can go around the world and champion another surge...somewhere...anywhere. Cowboy roundup redux.

complex that will only exist if we are in fear or having attacks. She is the woman that had a fund raiser for the people in the terrorism defense industry so they could have a meet and greet with elected officials that could help their new found business. Just seems strange that they would be teamed up together?

who has been involved in My Lai, who was up to his neck in Iran Contra, who failed to get the needed armor to the troops in Somalia, and who most recently knowingly lied is ass off in front of the world in order to justify an illegal invasion?

Great call, senator.

Not to be confused with his son, Michael, who screwed over at the FCC.

The Bushes and the Clintons are wrong for America!

I didn't know that. And another block clicks into place.

Matt Stoller just had a diary at Open Left about the woman who is out bundling money for Clinton. It seems that the woman is straight out of the big media pocket, and wants a job.

"Her FCC Chair choice, Ness, is well-liked by broadcasters, a surefire sign of problems. And Clinton's plan for broadband is modeled off of Connect Kentucky, an industry-written plan that defines broadband at 200K, which is 500 times slower than the speed of broadband in Japan. Worse, it excludes net neutrality. And if Clinton has a position on media consolidation, it's not a priority in her campaign. She has been silent on wireless spectrum and won't even give a straight answer on retroactive immunity for telecom companies."

Open Left

Splutter, splutter, gasp, thud.

What is the MATTER with this person?!

How dare anyone support her after this abusive bullshit. Let's send William Calley as a goodwill ambassador to Vietnam. Let's trot out Kissinger and prop him up somewhere; he's still got more up his sleeve. Hell, we've already got Negroponte and Abrams back in action, let's give Oliver North a trim and a slight coat of polyurethane and send him off to be Ambassador to Venezuela.

This also reeks of playing the race card in her little minuet with Obama.

The sheer revulsion she brings forth is only slightly buffered by the trust I have in my fellow humans to see this kind of ward-heeling for what it is.

Come on partisans, you're whoppertunists and weasels if you can support her after this; give it your best!

Booooooooooooooo!

you can't take this shit seriously anymore.

she has a better chance restoring America's image by using Bill (who is well liked and respected) than Colin "I sold my soul to the devil and helped fuck up America for years to come" Powell:eyes:

on who she should choose as the best political envoy..

Probably between Powell or Gore.

Powell ruined his chances at doing any good when he sold out to bush. there is no way to re-assemble humpty-dumpty. or to put it another way, he can't restore his virginity. once it's lost, it's lost.I don't want him representing me in any way.