Black voters tilt toward Clinton: study.. SC Primary : Clinton 43% Obama 33%

WASHINGTON -- Hillary Clinton is overwhelmingly popular with black voters, drawing higher approval ratings than the only major African-American candidate running for president, according to a study released today by the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies.

Clinton's own record as First Lady and New York senator -- along with her marriage to former President Bill Clinton, who is very popular among black voters -- earned her an 83 percent approval rating among likely black voters, compared to 75 percent who ranked Illinois Senator Barack Obama positively, the study said.

It's not that black voters don't like Obama as much, said David Bositis, senior research director for the Washington-based group. But African-Americans -- especially those in the South -- haven't seen black candidates do well statewide, and are concerned Obama can't win, Bositis said.

By a two-to-one margin, black voters said they valued ``commitment to change'' over experience in public office, a trend that would seem to favor Obama, who has cast himself as the agent of change in the race for the Democratic nomination. But Clinton, seen by voters as the stronger candidate to win the general election, still scored higher, according to the poll of 750 African-Americans who said they were likely to participate in primaries and caucuses.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/11/black_voters_tilt_toward_clinton_study.html

Rasmussen Poll:

Nov 28

South Carolina: Clinton 43% Obama 33%

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/2008_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2008_south_carolina_democratic_primary

Therefore, irrelevant..

your headline suggest a 43/33 split of black boters in SC. but the text indicates that those are overall SC numbers. Both data points are accurate...but you misrepresent the data in subject.

From the rassmussen article


"Among black voters, Obama is supported by 46%, Clinton by 45%. "

make of them what you will.. both are accurate in the context of each article.

They are tied among AA voters in SC...stop the insidious lying.

Let's look again at this from the OP: "It's not that black voters don't like Obama as much, said David Bositis, senior research director for the Washington-based group. But African-Americans -- especially those in the South -- haven't seen black candidates do well statewide, and are concerned Obama can't win, Bositis said"

It seems apparent that much of Hillary's supports among blacks is because a lack of confidence Obama can win. If Obama wins in iowa and/or NH, or is even close, look for a massive defection of the black vote away from hillary to obama.

A close win in Iowa might translate into a tight loss in New Hampshire. Butit is huge value in South Carolina if Obama convince African AMericans that He can win in the whitest of white states.

Since Edwards went negative, the damage he hoped to inflict on Hillary has backfired. He took the risk and it never materialized for him...that is, Hillary is still ahead and Edwards numbers are static.

here is the reference:

"Among black voters, Obama is supported by 46%, Clinton by 45%. However, among white voters, the picture looks entirely different--Clinton earns 42% support, Edwards 23%, and Obama 16%."

Obama is going to win South Carolina.

I'm with elizm.

It's being assumed, I think, that all the people with indoor plumbing are going to vote for Hillary because, well, she has a vagina. I'm going to vote for whoever gets the Dem nomination because I don't know what else to do, but I wouldn't choose her, genital similarities aside.

Each and everyone of us has a close association with vaginae, whether we think of it that way or not.
Can we all agree, we wouldn't be here without them?

The full Rasmussen article:


Election 2008: South Carolina Democratic Primary

South Carolina: Clinton 43% Obama 33%

Wednesday, November 21, 2007


New York Senator Hillary Clinton leads Illinois Senator Barack Obama by ten percentage points in South Carolina’s Presidential Primary. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the race shows Clinton with 43% of the vote while Obama is the top choice for 33% of the state’s Likely Primary Voters. Those numbers reflect little change from September when Clinton held a 43% to 30% advantage. In August, Clinton was ahead by eight (see crosstabs).

Currently, John Edwards is a distant third at 11% and no other Democrat tops the 2% level of support.

Among black voters, Obama is supported by 46%, Clinton by 45%. However, among white voters, the picture looks entirely different--Clinton earns 42% support, Edwards 23%, and Obama 16%.

Among women, Clinton leads 47% to 34%. Among men, her advantage is much smaller, 38% to 32%.

Eighty-one percent (81%) have a favorable opinion of Clinton. Seventy-seven percent (77%) view Obama favorably and 68% offer a positive assessment of Edwards. Those figures are little changed from earlier surveys.

Fifty-six percent (56%) of women have a Very Favorable opinion of Clinton, 44% of men say the same.

Clinton, Obama, and Edwards are virtually even in Iowa, the first state to vote in Election 2008. Clinton leads in New Hampshire, Florida, and national polls.

Sixty-six percent (66%) of Clinton’s supporters say they are “certain” to vote for her. Sixty-three percent (63%) of Obama’s say the same along with just 44% of Edwards’ South Carolina supporters.

Sixty-six percent (66%) of likely primary voters believe officers should check the immigration status of anyone they pull over for a traffic violation. Fifty-five percent (55%) say that illegal immigrants discovered through this process should be deported. Democratic primary voters are evenly divided as to whether such a policy would be a temptation to discriminate.

Seventy percent (70%) oppose drivers’ licenses for undocumented immigrants. Among all adults nationwide 77% are opposed to drivers’ licenses for undocumented immigrants.

Among South Carolina Republicans, Fred Thompson and Mitt Romney are tied for the lead.

The media sure has no problem injecting race into the race whenever they please. Apparently the only people who aren't allowed to discuss race in this race are black folk.

Flame away, Hillbots, flame away! I'm ready for ya!

Many black people dont think he can win, but if he wins in Iowa, and possibly NH, dont be surprised if many move to Obama.