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sabbat hunter

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:17 PM
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president for life?

Chavez at a rally said
"If God gives me life and help, I will be at the head of the government until 2050!" Chavez told the crowd."

Chavez would be 95 if that holds true. President for life? how democratic.:sarcasm:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hAyrGfE-ZWy2y7T2UdYkNsnzF65gD8T8AGDG1

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Recursion

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:21 PM
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1. Yay

:popcorn:

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redqueen

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:23 PM
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2. Oh nooooooooo!

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Warren Stupidity

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:24 PM
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3. FDR: president for life?

That was horrible. I'm so glad we survived the Roosevelt dictatorship.

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Joe the Revelator

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:30 PM
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6. I think there is a huge difference here...

....i mean, seriously.

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Warren Stupidity

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:44 PM
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9. Do elaborate.

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Joe the Revelator

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Fri Nov-30-07 09:39 PM
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12. Well for starters, FDR never asked to be President for 50 years nt

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Warren Stupidity

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Fri Nov-30-07 10:48 PM
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15. No FDR just *was* president for life.

In exactly the same way as Chavez is proposing: the people kept re-electing him in free and fair elections. And FDR kept getting re-elected because for the first time in generations people saw that government was working for them and not for the rich and powerful. That is the basis of Chavez's popularity, and that is what so terrifies our rulers here, and what compells them to send out their professional liars to confuse folks like you.

You all can continue to pretend that getting re-elected in free and fair elections is a dictatorship, but it is just that: pretense.

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Recursion

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Fri Nov-30-07 11:58 PM
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17. FDR's multiple terms were entirely Constitutional

He didn't push a Constitutional amendment to change how many times he can run (and incidentally, it has always been the tradition of US amendments about eligibility to grandfather in people's current status; I imagine if we undid the 22nd Amendment there would be language saying persons ineligible at the time of the amendment's passage would still be ineligible, just like there was language keeping the eligibility of previous Presidents (largely a moot point then since Truman was the only viable person and he had made clear that he would stick with 2 terms).

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Warren Stupidity

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Sat Dec-01-07 12:01 AM
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18. Yes that is a difference.

So what? If the people of Venezuela wish to keep re-electing Chavez until he croaks, why is that a bad thing?

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Recursion

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Sat Dec-01-07 01:43 AM
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19. Power corrupts

More generally, the more a nation depends on the personality of a particular leader the more dangerous its political situation is (my own interpretation of FDR's legacy is that, absent his leadership, the country turned to the nascent military-industrial complex).

Is it necessarily bad? No, for all I know Chavez will morph into a philosopher-king to rival Matthias the Just.

*shrug* time will tell, and frankly it's not my business what the Venezuelans do, though I reserve the right to continue making snarky comments.

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whistle

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Fri Nov-30-07 10:10 PM
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13. Harry S. Truman turned the FDR era around pretty quickly

...and put the country back into Republican hands after 20 years of Democratic New Dealism.

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AlCzervik

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:27 PM
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4. once we get this country fixed i'll have lots of free time to not think about Chavez.

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galileo3000

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:59 PM
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10. laughing so hard, I wish I had milk to spew from nostrils. Thanks.

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msongs

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:29 PM
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5. chavez is venezuela's problem, they deserve him if they vote for him in a FAIR election nt

Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 08:33 PM by msongs

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stillcool

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:36 PM
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7. He really should

take a little time off to sit on the board of a multi-national corporation...like Exxon Mobil...or better yet a private equity firm...like the Carlyle Group...otherwise..what's the point?

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Fed_Up_Grammy

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Fri Nov-30-07 08:39 PM
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8. There were lots of Chavez admirers here on DU before I became a member.

I didn't get it then and I don't get it now.

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Mutineer

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Fri Nov-30-07 09:34 PM
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11. There still are.

Some fool in GD tried to peddle the idea that there were just a few hundred at the protests and that most of them were Chavez supporters. In their dreams. And in his.

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bbinacan

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Fri Nov-30-07 10:30 PM
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14. Chavez wants a Castro

type of Presidency. Life or else.

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Warren Stupidity

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Fri Nov-30-07 11:06 PM
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16. Convertable.

His house is small and the guest bed has to double as a couch. I personally think the brand is overrated and there are other choices that could be made, but if Chavez prefers Castro, that really is no concern of mine.

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