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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:41 AM
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Why is Heath Shuler being praised on Tancredo's website?
This is Tom Tancredo's website, dedicated to securing our nation's border. Other names which grace that website's front page are:

Tony Blankley
Peter Brimelow
Pat Buchanan
Ann Coulter
John Derbyshire
Marcus Epstein
Mark Krirkorian
Heather MacDonald
Michelle Malkin
John O'Sullivan
Steve Sailer
Robert Samuelson
Phyllis Schlafly
Thomas Sowell
Diana West

Looks like Rahm's handpicked Heath Shuler is in very good Republican company.

Team America: Save our Nation



Patriotic Democrats, led by Rep Heath Shuler (NC,) are trying to secure our borders by introducing the SAVE (Secure America Through Verification and Enforcement) Act. In addition to getting Democratic support the SAVE Act has managed to secure endorsements from Labor and Business organizations.

...."Amnesty supporters always say that both parties must come together and create a “bi partisan immigration reform bill.” Last Summer, Lindsay Graham went as far as saying “my job to work with Democrats to do hard things. This is no longer about immigration. Can your Congress, can your Senate, come together to do things that one party can't do itself?

Well, now there is a bipartisan immigration bill that actually reforms our immigration system rather than just opening our borders and granting amnesty. We need to put the pressure on members of both parties to support this bill!


Some argued with me when I posted that Rahm was urging the Democratic caucus to support Tancredo's bill, to move right on immigration to win.

Doesn't sound that far off base. I think more who attended the training by the DCCC have been verifying it to bloggers.

We don't need to join with the extreme folks in the GOP, we just need to not be afraid to put forth a sensible program that is far more than just enforcement.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:45 AM
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1. HEath Shuler is the most unpopular democrat in Washington by far.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:48 AM
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2. Is Heath from an area where they like DLC-type Dems?

In Alaska for example, Democrats can easily get elected IF they are pro-drilling.

Not sure what Heath's area is like..

The DCCC is already very busy recruiting Democrats here to knock "corrupt bastards" Ted Stevens and Don Young out of their seats.



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 01:04 AM
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3. My opinion is that if we keep recruiting people who act like Republicans...
then we will be just like them.

I am of the mind that the old red state excuse is just not going to fly much anymore.

If that redstate wants Republican, then let them have one. Don't recruit people who are Democrats only in name, for we will become them.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:26 PM
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4. Article praises Shuler for not aligning himself with Democrats. ???
Is that how NC is really, or is the article spinning.

Frosh lawmaker unafraid to buck party's mainstream

Unafraid to buck the party's mainstream?? Those words are very telling.

WASHINGTON — Rep. Heath Shuler has promoted bills this year that would shield children from violent movies on airplanes, crack down on illegal immigration and protect kids from cyber stalkers — issues more likely to be promoted by a Republican than a Democrat.

“I feel like the 80 percent of America — we’re kind of in the middle, and that’s the way I see myself,” said the Waynesville Democrat. “We’ve got to get beyond the politics, and we’ve got to do what’s right.”

“Things obviously look very good for Shuler right now,” said Gibbs Knotts, a political science professor at Western Carolina University. “He’s been careful not to align himself with the national Democratic Party.”
Shuler’s positions on family values issues are conservative, which takes issues away from Republican challengers, he said.


So he is going to win by not aligning himself with the Democrats??

But he wants to be called a Democrat?

He just doesn't want to be like one?



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 12:37 PM
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5. Ooh....looks he made a lot of Democrats angry about this bill.
So now I am more and more convinced this was right about Rahm's urging the candidates at a DCCC forum to take a hard line on immigration.

CQ Politics has this from November. Looks like Heath took someone else's plan, kept the enforcement part only. He did it without consulting the proper Democrats. No wonder more Republicans are for it than Democrats.

Divisive Border Bill Faces Tough Road

North Carolina Democrat Heath Shuler ’s new immigration-enforcement bill, cheered by immigration hard-liners and jeered by Hispanic lawmakers, now faces a major roadblock: Rep. Loretta Sanchez , who chairs the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Border, Maritime and Global Counterterrorism.

Sanchez says Shuler, a former pro football player, made a rookie mistake by not consulting with her before he introduced the bill, which is deepening an existing rift between politically vulnerable centrist Democrats and Hispanic members. Homeland Security is one of eight committees to which the bill was referred, but the panel has the lead in dealing with it.

“I would say Heath better come talk to me about it,” Sanchez, a California Democrat, told CQ Politics.

..."Rep. Luis Gutierrez , D-Ill., the author of a “comprehensive” immigration overhaul that would combine enforcement measures with a new temporary-worker program and a means for illegal immigrants to become citizens, said Shuler’s bill is incomplete.

“It looked like he grabbed my STRIVE bill , took all the enforcement parts of it and forgot to turn the page. It’s a book he didn’t finish reading,” Gutierrez said. “We might as well put the Republicans in charge.”


Indeed, Shuler’s measure echoes the calls of the most ardent critics of immigration bills that would allow undocumented workers to eventually become American citizens. That includes retiring Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado , who has based his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination on opposition to illegal immigration. Tancredo signed on as one of 89 cosponsors, nearly all of whom represent the most conservative factions of the Republican and Democratic parties.


This reinforces my belief that we have to quit encouraging congressmen in red states to act like Republicans. We have done that too long.
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