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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:16 PM
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Hardball just showed a poll that Hillary is found the most ego
driven.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:18 PM
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1. saw that
Edited on Mon Dec-03-07 07:21 PM by rufus dog
and she won in a landslide. Also the likeability numbers went against her. That is why I am shocked at her using character and ambition as slams against Obama.


On Ego driven it was 52% Hillary 10 or 11% Obama, and 9% Edwards

Likeabilitity was 33% Obama, 26% Edwards, 14% Hillary

Rudy wins the Repub side for ego 34%

The Huckster and Mitt for likeability.

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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:29 PM
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2. Yes, those were the figures .. I hadn't written them down, but just
saw them again .. thanks.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:33 PM
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3. And the actual source for that poll?
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:37 PM
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8. Matter of fact.....


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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:43 PM
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12. Give me an egomaniac with a ton of experience any day. (eom)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:34 PM
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4. Yeah, but that was before they got the dirt on this kid
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:07 PM
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20. Is that Obama?
How cute!
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ilovesunshine Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:34 PM
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5. Only because she is a woman...
Where is the data from the prior Hardball polls?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:52 PM
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24. Ohhh, the boys are picking on her again. A president must be tougher than
that.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:36 PM
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6. Hardball conducts BS internet poll, dutifully reported by DUers because its anti-Hillary
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:41 PM
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11. Yep.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:45 PM
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13. "Hardball" host Tweety Matthews has a personal vendetta against the Clintons.(eom)
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 12:54 PM
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25. Do you KNOW that the poll was conducted by Matthews? No?
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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27. Yes, Tweety has a love-hate thing going for Hillary.
At times he seems as obsessed with her as Dick Morris. They're not the only ones. The Freeper men go so ballistic by the sheer mention of her name that a female Freeper once posted: Ahhhhh, men and their Hillary fantasies........
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:37 PM
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7. And some people think my thread was petty
"Some people say...."
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:39 PM
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9. Because we expect all women to be non-challenging: check out these articles...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/11/AR2007111101204.html?nav=emailpage

The conventional explanation for why female leaders are widely perceived as mannish, conniving and ruthless -- not just by men but by other women, too -- is that politics is tough, and the only way for a woman to survive in a male-dominated field is to have sharp elbows.

Women who do become leaders get stuck with Label B, because if leadership is unconsciously associated with manliness, cognitive consistency requires that female leaders be stripped of the caring qualities normally associated with women.

Then there's Leonard Pitts:

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/columnists/leonard_pitts/story/310595.html

Consider one of the many anti-Hillary smears now circulating online. It purports to be a compendium of profane, ill-tempered tirades she has unleashed upon subordinates. Your first thought is, what an unlikeable person. Your second is, or should be, wait a minute. Does George Bush never use potty language? Was Bill Clinton never brusque? Does Dick Cheney always say thank you and please?

But it's different, isn't it, because she's a woman? With the men, toughness reads as leadership, authority, getting things done. With her it reads as ''bitch.'' There is a sense -- and even women buy into this -- that a woman who climbs too high in male-dominated spheres violates something fundamental to our understanding of what it means to be a woman. Indeed, that she gives up any claim upon femininity itself.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:41 PM
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10. Yeah, ambitious women are the pits. Avoid at all costs.
And never elect one to the presidency. Of course, a good, unambitious woman wouldn't run...and then all would be right with the world.

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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:47 PM
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14. D-UH!
:eyes:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:49 PM
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15. The pertinent aspect of this is that Iowan likely caucus goers feel this way.
While concurrently, they find her least likeable of the top three.

Hmmm...

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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:50 PM
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16. Oh my dear Lord and Hardball is the most believable site on cable.
Do the ones who believe this also have their head up Matthews ass. Far far up his ass.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:51 PM
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17. Women and people of color should....
.....know their places.

But, then we wouldn't have this:


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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 07:57 PM
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18. These numbers are from the Des Moines Register Poll.
I just saw this flash on the screen on the 7pm hardball.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:06 PM
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19. Not surprised. At all.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:09 PM
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21. Stupid poll. nt
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:16 PM
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22. why?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 09:23 PM
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23. They all have high egos to want to run for president.
Who cares who's ego is highest?
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:28 PM
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26. still pissed did not get the clinton press sec. job - lockhart got it
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