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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 02:59 PM
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NPR RADIO DEBATE THREAD 2
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:01 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
thread 1: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3791795&mesg_id=3791795
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:00 PM
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1. anybody know why Richardson isn't there?
or is he?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:01 PM
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funeral of a Friend
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:01 PM
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3. attending the funeral of a Korean Vet whose remains were recently
returned to NM.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:32 PM
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He had a good and productive talk with Imus this a.m. Very interesting..n/t
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:01 PM
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2. K&R
Thanks Kurt
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:02 PM
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4. Thanks K and H for doing this, I had to turn audio off....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:02 PM
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5. thanks for the thread, Kurt.
k&r.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:05 PM
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9. Actually, it was a screw-up. I couldn't see the GD thread because I seem to be ignoring the author
And I don't doubt some people are missing this thread by ignoring me. (probably with good reason, too)

Usually these things are started by uncontroversial posters!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:02 PM
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6. grrrr.....I lost the feed. Dialup sucks.
You can quote me on that. :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:03 PM
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7. can you listen on the radio? n/t
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:05 PM
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8. None where I am...how weird is that?
:D
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:09 PM
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14. It timed me out twice and I have a fast connection. It seems to be working now.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:08 PM
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10. So Far: without visuals the top tier are DULL
Only Gravel, Kucinich and Biden say really interesting or provocative things, which is a must for radio.

(Hence, "shock radio")
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:08 PM
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11. Biden - just play by the rules.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:09 PM
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12. Biden: Why won't we even call-out China on human rights at the UN?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:09 PM
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13. LOL! Hillary "I agree with Joe"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:10 PM
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19. good for her.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:10 PM
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15. "I agree with Joe..." Take a drink.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:11 PM
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21. oooh - kinda early - maybe a soft drink! I'm game!!
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:12 PM
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26. If I took a drink everytime one of the other candidates said that...
I'd be unconcious already.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:10 PM
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16. thanks for the thread. just joining you all now.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:10 PM
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17. Listener question: How do you balance trade with China with
human rights. Biden speaking about using the UN. Says presently the UN does not address China's human rights abuses. Clinton speaking now; agrees iwth Biden.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:10 PM
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18. Biden: HOBSON'S CHOICE: (I had to look it up)
A Hobson's choice is a free choice in which only one option is offered, and one may refuse to take that option. The choice is therefore between taking the option or not taking it.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:11 PM
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22. Thanks Gately.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:11 PM
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23. thanks for the explanation.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:12 PM
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24. Thanks gateley! I was scratching my head.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:13 PM
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29. A nice elvis costello lyric:
Curiosity didn't kill the cat
It was a poisoned pen
But it's Hobson's choice
Between a cruel mouth and a jealous voice
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:29 PM
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85. Oh, now you're just showing off...lol.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:34 PM
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102. Interesting!
I love Elvis Costello - even tho his choice in candidates sux!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:11 PM
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20. Hilly just plugged Billy
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:12 PM
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25. a big REC
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:13 PM
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28. Here we go...the mill story again...
I just want to barf when I hear it...
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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33. I thought we were talking about China.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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34. I know,
I think he dragged out the friggin pink house picture too. Enough already.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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36. Why does the song "Coal Miners Daughter" spring to mind?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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40. I can't wait to see the transcript....
I want to see how many times he says "mill"...
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM
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97. I love this!!!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:13 PM
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27. Why are we talking about the Mill? i thought we were talking about China.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:13 PM
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30. Because it reflets our awful trade policies
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM by Armstead
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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31. when in doubt, talk about the mill. n/t
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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37. Oh No! The mill was in Iowa now.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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39. cheap shot
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:17 PM
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44. but true. and didn't adequately address the
question.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:19 PM
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51. The plain fact is that we are shipping production overseas
If he uses the mill as his analogy, fine with me.

The whole problem with China is a matter of National Deliberate Self Destruction.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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56. He's been using the mill as a prop since he started
running for office.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:23 PM
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66. And Hillary has been using her marriage
Yes the mill is getting a bit tired. But as a metaphor it does make sense.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:26 PM
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73. Clinton's role as a politically active first lady
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:27 PM by seasonedblue
had far more significance that Edwards' father working in a mill. He was promoted to supervisor, time-management I believe, something that's NOT the favorite role for union men and women.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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32. LOL...
yeah, he just had to get that in again.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:15 PM
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38. You can take the boy out of the mill, but you can't take the mill out of the boy.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:16 PM
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41. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA hahahahaha...
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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92. Hahaha, just lost my Green Tea....Need to add vodka...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:14 PM
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35. Edwards caught in a little slip-up there
We have more leverage than they do became enormous leverage.

Take-no-prisoners on the moderation front today.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:17 PM
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43. We can still have a heavier bucket , but if it's leaking....
...then pretty sooner we will have a lighter one.

As long as we continue to allow our economy to drain away to China, we will be steadily losing leverage
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:18 PM
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47. I know...points to the moderators for caring is my point
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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53. Okay....I'm glad to see journalists acting like journalists
Better than Wolf Blitzer trying to be Vince McMahon.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:16 PM
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42. tough question for Edwards about textile production
paraphrased: isn't the time of textile production in the U.S. past? Answers by bringing up his father, etc. Doesn't really answer. Obama speaking now. He's not doing much better.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:18 PM
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46. Obama was rambling on that one.
Edwards made no sense, but hey, anything to drag the old mill back into the picture.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:19 PM
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50. Did you know Edwards' father worked in a mill?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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54. That is entirely new information!
LOL!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:22 PM
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62. I was so suprised to hear that! I may just want to vote for him now!
:rofl:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:17 PM
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45. Thank you Biden for bringing the conversation back to reality.
whew!
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:18 PM
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48. Biden...
It's about fairness...would we be treating France the same way we would treat China if France broke the rules...(trade).

-Paige
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:19 PM
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49. Break time. Good music.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:20 PM
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52. I forgot the third topic already... I hope it's Paris Hilton!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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55. Nope, immigration. C'est la vie.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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57. NO! It's Brittany and K-Fed!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:22 PM
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60. M-igration.
"would you expect american citizens to turn in immigrants?" strange question. Obama saying no.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:21 PM
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58. "Do you expect Citizens to turn in Illegals?"---this is the next question.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:22 PM
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63. Obama does not expect citizens to turn in people---but says Employers should and wants a path
to citizenship.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:23 PM
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64. Good question.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:22 PM
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59. Obama stumbling on immigration.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:24 PM
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67. No he's not. He said we shouldn't deputize citizens to turn in illegal immigrants...
And that it's the job of big business and the Fed. govt.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:25 PM
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70. no stumble from what I heard.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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82. Thank you.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:22 PM
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61. A follow-up for Biden: When does war with China start?
Sorry, Bidenators, the words are fine, but the tone is all wrong.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:26 PM
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72. Maybe after Obama attacks Pakistan.



Pakistani protesters burn a U.S. flag to condemn U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama's remarks, in Karachi, Pakistan, Friday. Pakistan criticized Obama for saying that, if elected, he might order unilateral military strikes inside this Islamic nation to root out terrorists.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:32 PM
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99. Too bad. That's the position of the U.S. as well as most of the other candidates.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:34 PM
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104. Oh, well that's just great...
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:35 PM by 1corona4u
they're pissed off at him, and he's not even been elected yet.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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115. As they'd be pissed off at any other candidate since they feel the same way...
AND as is our current policy.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:47 PM
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125. Maybe, maybe not...
I haven't seen any article about their hatred for any other candidate.

Welcome to my list.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:50 PM
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127. Your Christmas card list?
Thanks! :hi:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:23 PM
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65. Dodd expects empoyers to turn in illegals also.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:24 PM
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68. Dodd talking of reforming NAFTA also.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:25 PM
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71. He makes a good point
If "free trade" was so successful, why are more people trying to get out of there and trying to come here?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:25 PM
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69. Kucinich: We have due process in this country....
no Dennis, we're SUPPOSED to have due process..Bush has taken care of that, but I get your point.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:26 PM
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74. Hillary agrees with Obama...again.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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79. Clinton's doing better than Obama IMO.
She's understandable, and gets to the point much faster than Obama. Everyone's agreeing with Joe Biden.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM
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95. I'm not surprised you feel that way.
But she has said a few things that the other candidates said she misrepresented them.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:33 PM
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101. I'm not surprised you feel the way you do either.
I actually praise Obama when I think he's done good, I've never seen you have a good thing to say about Clinton.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:39 PM
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120. When she does good, I'll praise her.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:27 PM
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75. Clinton saying she agrees with Obama, Dodd and Dennis on immigration.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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76. and they are all right.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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81. Biden: "I agree with Hillary"---on immigration. (no round ups)
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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77. Hillary: "That's a very clever question..." As in "gotcha"?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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78. These are thought provoking, very different questions about immigration - I'm
impressed, although this tough one -- do you turn in someone who's applied for a nanny position -- it almost unanswerable...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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91. It becomes more answerable when you add, "turn them in to who?"
There is nobody to turn them in to... that's what makes the line of questioning so weird.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:28 PM
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80. WTF? Biden says "I agree with Hillary" Spit up one drink, I guess.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:29 PM
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83. *finger down throat* ..I can't guarantee just one drink coming though.
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM by youthere
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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87. Yep he did agree with Hillary lol.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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88. ROFL !!
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:34 PM
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103. It's only fair ya know....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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89. Hil. gave a very compassionate response to the problem of illegals--and i am
glad to see Biden agree.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:29 PM
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84. Biden - not all immigrants are from Mexico.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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86. Biden stumbling on a data point...Chris, HELP!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM
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93. And did you notice the civil tone between them? maybe your guy could learn how to talk to another
candidate in a civil manner??
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:32 PM
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98. Now you're just being silly
but that's OK.

Can Obama call a friend too if he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:36 PM
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111. Biden graciously appreciated what Dodd was saying. Did you miss that?
Biden said that Dodd knows alot more about that than he does.

Gee- a candidate that is not afraid to admit it when someone else knows more than he does.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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90. I cringed when I heard Biden use that statistic - and now he's coming back to
him...
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM
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96. What statistic?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:33 PM
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100. Ohhh... I hope Joe brings up the Swift meat co in NC
John's own state....that would be great...since they found 2800 illegals working there...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM
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94. No NPR at all on my radio. Just now tuning back in via net.. excellent thread wrapup!! n't
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:34 PM
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105. Hilly's not getting much airtime today...anyone agree?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:36 PM
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108. I think she's getting less than she normally does..which isn't all bad.
But it looks like Kucinich is getting screwed again.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:36 PM
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110. ::raises hand:: I'll agree just to be agreeing !
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:35 PM
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106. I like how the mods are holding the candidates to answer the question.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:36 PM
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109. I know...because some of them do drift away from the question...
like they're not focused....or they don't know the answer...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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117. Yes, some of them are all over the place,
and it's hard to tell what they're actually trying to say.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:35 PM
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107. Edwards is demonstrating the difficulty of populism without racism
I am very sympathetic to him on this.

(Traditionally, populism almost always has racist and/or xenophobic elements.)
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:37 PM
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112. I love Gravel! Anybody with me?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:42 PM
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123. Nope. Love you, Hate Gravel, LOL.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:37 PM
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113. You go, Dennis
NAFTA and Wall St are driving wages down
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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114. Jeez for a minute there, I had forgotten Kucinich and Gravel were even there.
They are not getting much air time.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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116. Who dug up Mike Gravel?
I'm glad that he's having an opportunity to debate. It's a crime that the media decides who is worthwhile.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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118. If we crack down on employers, where will the get the money to pay a substantial fine?
Not a slap at Obama. A slap at the punitive aspects of everyone's reform proposals that don't make any sense as policy. (Leaving questions of fairness aside... just as a matter of practical policy)
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:38 PM
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119. Does anybody else wonder why this substantive debate is HIDDEN on NPR... where its
guaranteed to be heard/seen by almost nobody. And we get talking clowns and You Tube singers on MSM. It makes me SICK that we're deprived as a nation of this kind of dialogue. ::rant off for now:::
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:40 PM
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121. NPR RADIO DEBATE THREAD 3
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:40 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3792475
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:40 PM
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122. damn, I've missed 3/4 of it, sleeping!!
jet lag, just woke up. Listening now, topic IMMIGRATION.

Hillary sounds kinda froggy, stressed.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:42 PM
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124. Hilly's right: Economy sucks so let's piss on the brown people
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:00 PM
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128. she said NO shch thing!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:48 PM
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126. Dodd put out a statement about Hillary and NIE: "It's easy to say 'fool me once,
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:48 PM by jenmito
shame on George Bush,' but when SHE'S been fooled twice, shame on her."
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