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Adelante

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Tue Dec-04-07 05:49 PM
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North Carolina Poll: Clinton 31, Edwards 26, Obama 24

Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 05:53 PM by WesDem

Public Policy Polling MOE 3.7%

Hillary Clinton 31
John Edwards 26
Barack Obama 24
Other 12
Undecided 8

Hillary Clinton regains the lead in North Carolina after being tied with John Edwards last month but the most noteworthy thing from this poll is Barack Obama's strongest performance since July, mirroring the trends in key primary states showing the race for the Democratic nomination tightening.

Obama's strongest performance across the state comes in the Triangle where he leads the way with the support of 31% of respondents. Obama's showing comes after a public appearance at North Carolina Central University in Durham last month.

Clinton leads among female voters, Edwards leads among white voters and male voters, and Obama leads among black voters. Edwards earned the support of only 3% of black respondents.

Regionally, Clinton leads the Charlotte area and SE North Carolina, Edwards leads the Triad and the Mountains, and Obama leads the Triangle and NE North Carolina.

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2007/12/democratic-tracking-poll-president.html

Polling data pdf:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_120407.pdf

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Tue Dec-04-07 05:53 PM
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1. Edwards earned the support of only 3% of black respondents.

The reason HRC is attacking Obama is because she would prefer to see Edwards win Iowa and emerge as her number one challenger... If it works it's a great strategy...

That being said, I think it's risky... I would compare and contrast myself with my opponents and not go negative...Hillary can't afford , imho, to make this race a referendum on her...

Risky...

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Adelante

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:09 PM
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6. Yeah, it seems that way to me

I've wondered if she's risking the black vote, too. So many black voters really stepped up for her and if they become uncomfortable over attacks on Obama, they may feel the need to rally around him. But I think her strategy of not weakening Edwards in Iowa is what she has to do.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:23 PM
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9. But If Edwards Wins IA He Will Get The Blame For Derailing Obama Not Hillary

Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 06:23 PM by DemocratSinceBirth

They won't rememember why he lost... They will just remember who beat him...

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Adelante

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:47 PM
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11. You got that right

Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 06:56 PM by WesDem

But it won't matter to Hillary. She'd still be the one with the long leads and he'd still be the one with no money. Pissed off Obama supporters in that scenario might turn on him. I doubt losing Iowa to Edwards would derail Obama, though. It just brings him down a peg. He can take it longer and farther than Edwards can, unless Edwards got a Kerry-like tailwind out of Iowa and I just don't see that coming this time around. There's too much of a bunch-up at the top and I think one or two of the second tier might come in up there, too. I don't expect a surprise ending this time, unless something truly, majorly disastrous happens to one of the top three. We'll see.

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Occam Bandage

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:55 PM
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13. I'd agree. If Obama wins IA, he's got a shot. If JE wins IA, HRC reloads, wins NH, and goes on to

secure the nomination by Super Tuesday.

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geek tragedy

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Tue Dec-04-07 05:54 PM
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2. Edwards can't even win his own homestate.

Some Lion of the South he is.

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MadBadger

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Tue Dec-04-07 05:55 PM
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3. Didnt we learn that lesson in the last election?

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Tue Dec-04-07 05:56 PM
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4. I Want To Hear What His Supporters Have To Say

How can you lose your own state in a primary and put yourself forward as a credible candidate...

Maybe they will refer to that three month old Oklahoma Survey USA poll showing him doing better than Clinton and Obama...

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Mythsaje

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:07 PM
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5. Counting chickens, are we?

He hasn't lost yet.

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Beaverhausen

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:14 PM
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7. Have any votes been cast yet?

Didn't think so. :eyes:

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BeyondGeography

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:16 PM
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8. This continues to be an embarassment for Edwards

He would be very hard not to support if he could guarantee his home state in the general. But he added nothing there in 2004 and he consistently trails in his own party this time around.

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Cameron27

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:28 PM
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10. It's not only that,

but he's also taking public financing. When even kos goes after him on that, you know it could be a serious problem for us if he's the nominee.

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DemocratSinceBirth

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Tue Dec-04-07 07:11 PM
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14. Gore-Lieberman And Kerry-Edwards Both Got 43% Of The NC Vote

He added nothing to the ticket!

Given the "relative" closeness of FL Kerry might have been better off taking Bob Graham...

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BeyondGeography

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Tue Dec-04-07 07:36 PM
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15. Any VP pick that doesn't at least let you hold a winnable state is a mistake

Few people thought NC was winnable, and Edwards bore that out. Terrible pick by Kerry.

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Occam Bandage

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Tue Dec-04-07 06:52 PM
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12. Talk of Edwards having the "broadest appeal" seems to me rather insulting

Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 06:53 PM by Occam Bandage

to the South and Interior West. "Sure, he's trailing Clinton or Obama in every state, but...*whispers*...well, just look at him. Compared to Hillary or Obama, he just...looks more like someone they'd accept, that's all. Well, yeah, Obama has the highest positives among Republicans, but...the red states might not be ready for him. Edwards, though. White guy. Talks like a southerner or something. They'll eat it up."

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