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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:19 PM
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"Obama ties to mining lobbyist, opposition to bill draws scrutiny"
Edited on Thu Dec-06-07 11:22 PM by SaveElmer


Obama ties to mining lobbyist, opposition to bill draws scrutiny
By KATHLEEN HENNESSEY Associated Press Writer
Article Last Updated: 11/14/2007 04:45:35 PM MST

LAS VEGAS—Democrat Barack Obama opposes a bill that would change the nation's 135-year-old mining law—the same stance as mining industry executives who employ a Nevada-based lobbyist advising the presidential candidate.

The Obama campaign and Billy Vassiliadis, a longtime Nevada power broker, contend there is no connection, saying they have never discussed Obama's position on the mining bill.

However, the Illinois senator's stance on pending legislation and his adviser's ties to the mining industry are raising questions in a state where mining is an economic engine in rural areas. Democrats will vote in presidential caucuses Jan. 19, and Obama's position could help him against rivals Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Edwards, who have not taken a clear position on the bill.

The General Mining Law of 1872 allows the mining industry to pull gold, silver and other minerals from federal lands without paying royalties. The industry opposes changes to the law and several efforts to reform it have failed.

A House-passed bill would impose a royalty of 4 percent of gross revenue on existing hard-rock mining operations and 8 percent of gross revenue on new mining operations. The reform bill also would put new environmental controls on hard-rock mining, set up a cleanup fund for abandoned mines and permanently ban cheap sales of public lands for mining.

Obama said the legislation, favored by environmentalists, "places a significant burden on the mining industry and could have a significant impact on jobs." He also opposes the proposed fees.

...

Vassiliadis, a longtime Nevada power broker, is a member of Obama's Nevada steering committee and has contributed $2,300 to his campaign. He is a lobbyist for the Nevada Mining Association at the state level and the chief executive of the advertising and lobbying firm hired by two mining companies to lobby for them in Washington.

Denver-based Newmont Mining Co., one of the world's largest gold producers, hired Las Vegas-based R&R Partners' Washington, D.C. office in January. The firm has represented silver and gold miner Coeur d'Alene Mines Corp., in Washington since 2006.

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http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_7462292?source=email
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:24 PM
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1. Don't give up, Elmer!
Keep looking for dirty stuff from Obama- maybe one of those old news articles will do it! :)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:25 PM
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3. Easy to tell youa re young...when 2 weeks ago seems old to you...nt
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:29 PM
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5. Elmer, what do you think about Rasmussen's latest SC poll?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 10:44 AM
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18. Well it is a bit out of whack with other recent polls there...
Will have to see if the next two or three confirm the results or if this is an outlier...why I have refrained from commenting on it up to now
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:25 PM
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2. obama is a big coal guy
he`s not going to harm anyone in the coal industry because illinois has one hell of a lot of coal.he`s all for using high sulfer illinois coal if those nasty bits can be filtered out..good luck on that.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:04 AM
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8. Yup, and he'll probably vote..
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:25 PM
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4. From November 14?
Surely there's more up-to-date dirt than that? :eyes:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:38 PM
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6. I don't believe Obama sold out for a lousy $2300
but I am curious about him taking a donation from a lobbyist. I thought he vowed not to do that?
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:43 AM
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14. From the article:
Vassiliadis is not a federally registered lobbyist. His firm, R&R Partners Inc., generates most of its revenue from advertising and public relations, Vassiliadis said. It's best known for developing the Las Vegas tourism tag line, "What happens here, stays here."

Obama regularly assails the relationship between special interests, lobbyists and politicians. He has called for more transparency in government and separation from lobbyists' influence is a central tenet to his claims as the candidate of change.

"If everything is out front, you know who is doing (lobbyists') bidding and who is doing the bidding of the American people," Obama said recently in New Hampshire. "And that's the kind of politics we need to set up."

Obama does not accept campaign donations from federal lobbyists.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:44 PM
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7. Clinton wants to revise the 1872 General Mining Law AND...
From her site:

Hillary Clinton has lent a thoughtful ear to the discussion of mining issues. She supports revising the 1872 Mining Law, and she understands the importance of access to the vast mineral resources throughout the region. Her commitment to strengthening access to broadband communication systems throughout the rural United States will be vital to economic diversification and to increasing access to higher education for all."

(snip)

"We are fortunate to have the support of these outstanding community leaders," said Clinton Nevada Chair Rory Reid. "John and Roger are devoted representatives of Northern Nevada communities, and their leadership, work ethic and drive will be tremendous assets to the campaign."

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=2946


Who is Rory Reid? You guessed it...Harry Reid's son.



http://www.roryreid.net/




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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:35 AM
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12. From the article:
Obama does not accept campaign donations from federal lobbyists.
Obama says he believes mining reform is necessary and has called for increased dialogue to forge a compromise.

Sounds good to me!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:23 AM
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9. Kick and recommend.
Obama's not right for the job.

:kick:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:30 AM
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10. Is Hillary? See post #7. nt
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:33 AM
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11. LoL. Nothing recent, Elmer? Just continue looking in your recycle bin. nm
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:37 AM
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13. It's not a pretty thing when this sort of thing happens to a campaign.
As the negativity increases, the poll numbers drop more, as the poll numbers drop more, the negativity increases more....and on and on until the endorsement of the rival.

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Clanfear Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 12:50 AM
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15. Maybe some day something will stick
Edited on Fri Dec-07-07 12:50 AM by Clanfear
In the mean time, keep grasping at straws.

Has anyone been watching the polls lately?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:05 AM
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16. While I'm Admittedly A Long Time Edwards Supporter & Have Seen
this poll and that poll, mostly showing him as 3rd, I'm beginning to REALLY think that in the end it WILL be Edwards and his populist message that can WIN!!

Now, don't all of you start piling on or laugh out loud... I'm just making a statement and WON'T get into ANY kind of tit for tat with anyone!

It's after 1:00 AM here, and I'm going "nite-nite!" Yeah, I'm just "slinking" away, I do that sometimes, yes I do!

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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-07-07 01:45 AM
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17. FACTS: Media Matters
AP claimed Obama's "mining lobbyist ties" are "raising questions" but did not say with whom

Summary: Associated Press reporter Kathleen Hennessey wrote that Sen. Barack Obama "opposes a bill that would change the nation's 135-year-old mining law -- the same stance as mining industry executives who employ a Nevada-based lobbyist advising the presidential candidate," which Hennessey said is "raising questions." Despite the suggestion of impropriety, Hennessey offered no evidence or allegation of wrongdoing. Hennessey's article is the latest in a series of media reports on Obama that have suggested possible wrongdoing on his part, but, at the same time, failed to identify any allegations or evidence that he acted improperly.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200711150015
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